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Old 05-15-2012 | 08:46 AM
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so i took the car to the track for the first time and was havinh all kinds of problems. but mostly was the shiftjng issue these cars have. so, im in the market for a new clutch since i smoked this one at the track. im currently running a diamond stae 2 clutch and imo, is junk. ive already had one of these replaced and this probably has 1000 miles on it and my first outing at the track, it takes a ****. so. i make 571rwhp. my goal hp is 750 rwhp. so im thinking some sort of a twin disc that is still streetable. i have a buddy who ran thr mcleod rst and he said h broke 2 trannies cuz of how harsd it engages. also heard the RAM clutches are junk. so i dont know what to buy. its my street car that i take to the track sometimes...also need a suggestion for an adjustable master cylinder....tick, mcleod??

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Did you talk to Diamond? They usually back their stuff up.
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Do you think you will go much above the planned 750hp in the future? I ask because I want to insure that you get something that suits your needs now and later! Either way we offer 4 different Super-Twin clutch kits and either the SST (which uses a hybrid disc with Kevlar on one side and a carbon-graphite-semi-metallic puck on the other) or the PT (which has the carbon-graphite-semi-metallic puck on both sides) should meet your needs. I have provided a link to the site specific to these kits below (which include the clutch assembly and steel flywheel). Take a look and let me know if you have any questions. Thanks!

http://www.specclutch.com/cars/Ponti...000/Super_Twin
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Did you talk to Diamond? They usually back their stuff up.
yea. the first time he replaced it no problems. i haven't contacted him about this one and i don't think i will. id want a partial refund and i doubt he'd do that. i don't wanna put another one of their clutches and have to change it again in a few months. don't get Mr wrong, Jason is a cool dude, but Im not impressed with their clutches at all.

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Do you think you will go much above the planned 750hp in the future? I ask because I want to insure that you get something that suits your needs now and later! Either way we offer 4 different Super-Twin clutch kits and either the SST (which uses a hybrid disc with Kevlar on one side and a carbon-graphite-semi-metallic puck on the other) or the PT (which has the carbon-graphite-semi-metallic puck on both sides) should meet your needs. I have provided a link to the site specific to these kits below (which include the clutch assembly and steel flywheel). Take a look and let me know if you have any questions. Thanks!

http://www.specclutch.com/cars/Ponti...000/Super_Twin
I've been lookin at your guys' setups. i won't ever go over 8-850rwhp. ill pm you in a few days and see what we can work out. i have to figure out a few things first before i make a purchase.
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No worries, I look forward to hearing from you! Thanks,
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Wonder why he did not give you the stage 3 after you tore up the stage 2. Was that 571rwhp on a mustang dyno? I definitively go twin disc with 800+ hp.
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Our 11" ceramic has gone mid 9's and has held 1100rwtq... give me a call and we'll get you into something that will hold.
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Wonder why he did not give you the stage 3 after you tore up the stage 2. Was that 571rwhp on a mustang dyno? I definitively go twin disc with 800+ hp.
Im not sure, but i dont want an on/off clutch. the 571 was on a dynojet .

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Our 11" ceramic has gone mid 9's and has held 1100rwtq... give me a call and we'll get you into something that will hold.
is that a monster clutch?
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[QUOTE=allout06;16315754]Im not sure, but i dont want an on/off clutch. the 571 was on a dynojet .

I would say a twin disc for sure. I have a spec stage 3 before and i did not like the on/off pedal i would rather have the more stock feel, that's why i went to Diamond 2.

Let me know which you go with and how it works. so i can have future reference for when i build something faster.
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FBG, we offer lots of options other than Stage 3. These options include 6 other single-disc kits, 4 Super-Twins and 3 Mini-Twin/Triple kits too. A number of these provide great drivability. It just comes down to picking the kit that best fits your needs. Let me know if you have any further questions! Thanks,
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Originally Posted by allout06
is that a monster clutch?
Of course.

Give us a call and we'll get you taken care of if we can.
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from my understanding, (i won't mention the names or the story) , but monster clutches and diamond clutches are the same thing, they just use different flywheels..
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Originally Posted by allout06
from my understanding, (i won't mention the names or the story) , but monster clutches and diamond clutches are the same thing, they just use different flywheels..
Your understanding is incorrect. Last time I checked Diamond doesn't offer an 11" unit...

I own Monster Clutch Co. and I know Jason at Diamond/TDP very well and I can guarantee you we're not at all the same. This rumor started a few years ago and has been put down a hundred times in the past.

It's odd you are saying this when your second Diamond has failed, I would assume that anyone researching where to buy a product would get the story from both owners as opposed to listening to hearsy. Call me, I'll go over why I believe ours is best and I'll clear up the b.s. you've heard.

For the record -

Our Level 2 has gone high 10's, our 3's low 10's, our 4's have gone high 9's, our 11" Ceramics have gone mid 9's and have held over 1100rwtq on our in house dyno. I know that Jason is a great guy, but, he can't say that.

I'll post up videos shortly to back the claims I made in the last paragraph... if it doesn't change your mind then nothing will.
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You should send the Diamond 2 back and get a replacement. Ill buy it off you.
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Originally Posted by SNLPerformance
Your understanding is incorrect. Last time I checked Diamond doesn't offer an 11" unit...

I own Monster Clutch Co. and I know Jason at Diamond/TDP very well and I can guarantee you we're not at all the same. This rumor started a few years ago and has been put down a hundred times in the past.

It's odd you are saying this when your second Diamond has failed, I would assume that anyone researching where to buy a product would get the story from both owners as opposed to listening to hearsy. Call me, I'll go over why I believe ours is best and I'll clear up the b.s. you've heard.

For the record -

Our Level 2 has gone high 10's, our 3's low 10's, our 4's have gone high 9's, our 11" Ceramics have gone mid 9's and have held over 1100rwtq on our in house dyno. I know that Jason is a great guy, but, he can't say that.

I'll post up videos shortly to back the claims I made in the last paragraph... if it doesn't change your mind then nothing will.
right on. what kind of pricing is on that 11"? is it a single or dual setup? how's the streetability? thanks.

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You should send the Diamond 2 back and get a replacement. Ill buy it off you.
i may just do that but Im not tearing into it until i have the new clutch. Im not even sure ir Jason would replace it again.
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Just send me a PM if thats what you end up doing. Hope evry thing works out the way you plan.
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Waiting on customer to send me the 10.99 video or timeslip in the C5 Corvette

Level 3 Running a 10.34@134.6 on a 1.501 60' (customers best was a 1.45) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJT4tqttTiI&feature=plcp

Level 4 Running a 9.970@139.16 (Silver Fbody) vs a 11" Ceramic Running a 9.611@143.97 (Blue Fbody) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcS9s...layer_embedded

A screen shot of WRP's GTO with an 11" Ceramic Single Disc -


Call me and I'll get you taken care of on a clutch that will hold your power.
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nice. ill give ya a call soon. like i said it'll b a couple weeks till i order one. thanks.




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