z28fiend

damnit' to hell and back!
ok, here's the deal. i have known that i have had a bad 3-4 shift fork for a couple of weeks now. my transmission kept popping out of third. well, i was getting on to the on ramp of I-20 and shifted to hard into fourth and the damn thing got stuck in fourth. i had to muscle it out of fourth and now all that i have is the bottom gears in my car, 2nd, 4th & 6th. well, after that happened i was driving home and a freakin' GT pulls up next to me and jumps at me! F#%#%*^%! S*%%! I was so pissed off at the time. So now i have to take it to GM tomorrow, "hopefully the service dept. is open on saturday's" and turn it in. best part about it, she only has 10,000 miles on her. imagine that! another good thing is that i probably get to drive a freakin' impala or something like that for a loaner! YES! anyhow, i just needed to vent for a little bit. thanks everyone for listening!

jmd

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drill mod that mother futher.

z28fiend

ok, GM wasnt open on saturday's. great! i do have one question for those that have been through this same thing. do you think that GM would say anything that i dont have the shift stops in my ripper shifter? after all, thats probably why it broke in the first place is the hard shifting and over travel. should i go ahead and put them in before monday rolls around?

jmd

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Per the transmission manufacturer:

Q: I am installing an aftermarket shifter on my TREMEC. Do you have any suggestions?

A: The major problem with aftermarket shifters is that they have stops on them. To install them correctly, you will have to remove the stops completely. Our transmissions are built with internal stops.

TNormZ28

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I thought the 02 had the better hydrolics. NO need for the drill mod. I have the same problem with my tranny (pops out of 3rd, gets stuck in 4th). I'm going to get it rebuilt I guess. I still have all my gears as of today but who knows.

2001CamaroGuy

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the 01's and up have better HYDROPLICS (salve cylinder), they don't go out like the old ones.

They still have the restrictor in the line. Its there to make the clutch engauge slower (makes the car more "streetable").


That bites about the tranny.

I have 37K miles and never had a problem with my tranny (but I don't beat the sh*t out of it like a lot of people do).

z28fiend

hey matthew, where did you find that info and is that about the T-56? just figured that i would ask incase they try to pull one over on me.
B.J.

HydroDesign

I was just going to start a new post asking about the B&M Ripper shifter, you guys touched on some it here. I was going to ask (just because I had been thinking about this for a week) if I should have installed the positive stops that you can put on the Ripper. The Ripper's install manual says NOT to install these! And I also had heard that the T-56 did not need these positive stops because they were built in.
Thanks Matthew for the quote.
So z28fiend I don't think the stops are your problem and you can tell GM that their tranny supplier says the stops are not necessary.

later

muscleSS00

Know your pain, I ripped second out of one that was stock and I never really drove it hard in the low gears!

slow

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why not just install the stock shifter back on, don't give the dealer a reason to mess with you.

Its a 30 minute job.

Ryan.

99MONGOOSE

The t-56 does have internal stops BUT they are weak. They will become soft,smashed, or broken from repeated abuse(hard shifting). As these internal stops get shashed flat they tend to let the shift travel to far, thus bending the aluminum shift fork Having an aftermarket shifter with external positive stops will completely prevent this ffrom happening as long as the stops are set correctly.

99ZEOD

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Im with you on this one Mongoose. I trashed my tranny twice because of no shift stops in the Ripper. I wised up and put the stops in and it's been going strong for over a year now with no complaints. And I drive this car hard.

If anyone doubts that you need to install the shift stops, call D&D and see what they have to say. They see more tranny rebuilds than me or you will ever dream of.

Z06PSI

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99zeod and mongoose are correct.. 3rd transmission because after the internal stops get worn then the shift fork travels too far and the $1.00 tabs fall out thus creating the stuck in fourth gear and the onslaught of problems after that. This is coming from D&D themselves and they are the ones to trust for sure....

z28fiend

my car is being fixed by gm as we speak. i really appreciate everyones comments. i will install the shift stops as soon as i get her back home. thanks again,
B.J.

jmd

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Incorrect, and a very common misconception. I've done the d. mod on a 99 TA, and on an 01 Z28 and some others. It's 100% NECESSARY on ALL f-bodies from 1984 through 2002. For other reasons I won't go into, it's just more critical on the 98-02's. Just do it!

-Matthew

z28fiend

Ok guys, here's the deal. GM went ahead and completely rebulit the entire transmission. They also installed a new clutch assembly. That blew my mind. They said that it was a little worn and they may as well replace the clutch while they are in there. All of that free of charge to me! Well, I pick her up tomorrow at noon. Thanks for the suggestions fellas. Later,
B.J.

restoman45

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actually, it can only be done on 98-02 f-bodies, as the lt1 cars and b4 were all mechanical, the ls1 is the only hydraulic tranny. and as far as the shift stops, i agree w/ everyone else that y not have two safety's instead of one, its 2 ounces extra weight and only takes ten seconds, its not worth not doing ...and dang, where did u find this dealer, i always hear all these horror stories, and yours went above and beyond the call! good luck w/ your new tranny

jmd

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And I repeat, it's something to be done to 1984 - 2002 f-bodies. All V8 f-bodies had hydraulic clutches from 1984 onwards. If the 93-97 LT1 6 speed f-bodies weren't hydraulic, why does the McLeod master cylinder fit them? Don't call me on something like that.

David N

I'm completely ignorant on this. I bought my '01 with the Hurst shifter option, does it include external stops?

trackbird

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He's correct. The 84 and up F-bodies are not mechanical clutches. I have swapped 5 and 6 speeds into several 3rd gens and used factory hydraulic masters and slaves on all of them. ANd, by all means, install shift stops. If B&M didn't believe in them, they would not have taken time to add them to the shifter....just my thoughts (it seems that has already been figured out).

Good luck!