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Old May 21, 2006 | 02:23 PM
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Most of you guys know me, but for those that dont, i have a black SS that has ALOT of swirls, and scratches, and haze in the paint. A buddy of mine buffed and polished it for me and used that cleaner wax on it to try to remove all the swirls and scratches and haze thats in my paint, but the paint is still really bad. I was wondering is what should i do? take it somewhere to get it professionally wet sanded or maybe save the money and get the entire car repainted? Or if anyone on here has hookups on either of them or knows how to do them please let me know.
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Old May 21, 2006 | 04:23 PM
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I'd respray the car, but you know you need a new hood first too. The cracks will probably come back... I can probably have it completely redone for like 3000-3500ish...
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Old May 21, 2006 | 05:13 PM
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Ya mike i know i would need a new hood..i plan on picking that up though..heres some pics..i couldnt get the pics to come out as good as i wanted, but the whole car look spretty much the same..



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Old May 21, 2006 | 05:39 PM
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Why not try wetsanding it before you decide on a paint job. I wet sanded my own hood and front bumper, then buffed and polished and it looks better than new! I had swirls and fine scratches like you do (red car though)
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Old May 21, 2006 | 05:45 PM
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see i dont have the experience to do it and im scared as hell, especially on a black car...i was just wondering what everyone thought
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Old May 21, 2006 | 08:14 PM
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Yeah, I don't think I'd try it if it was black. I was supposed to put a different hood on my car, that's why I did it on my car.
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Old May 21, 2006 | 08:45 PM
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ya..damn someone has to either know how to get this stuff out, or recommend a good place that can get it all out.
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Old May 21, 2006 | 09:02 PM
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back when i had my gn i used a product that i think was called the TREATMENT ???it was a 2 stage cleaner & wax,it kicked *** on black!!!!!!!
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Old May 21, 2006 | 09:17 PM
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ya..i think im gonna just pick up a porter cable polisher and a bunch of nice products and try it out
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Old May 21, 2006 | 09:25 PM
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weve got some great **** at my dealership that i used on quite a few cars when i was in detail. ifr u want me to get ahold of some, drop me a PM and ill see when we can get this set up. it would be a great idea if u did get that electric buffer. take it easy!
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Old May 21, 2006 | 09:54 PM
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Try this for *****... just try a section of the car to see if it looks better.
Meguiars #7 polish and Mothers pure Carnuba. If you would like I could lend ya some and we could see if it works. It is worth a try considering it would take 5 minutes. Meguiars #y ans #26 work wonders on black cars.

Lemme know. If it works, you will save ALOT, and if it doesn't, then you wasted 5 minutes of your life.
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Old May 21, 2006 | 10:37 PM
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I detailed for a while and had a black GN...
What I would try a is foam pad and some 3M Swirl Mark Remover for Dark Cars. Pretty sure that's what it was called?
Finesse It might work too. Probably some other things that work on dark cars too.
What did you buff it with the first time?
I'm actually not a big fan of anything Meguiars as it's all chalky and makes a freakin' mess.
If you go the wet sand route just use some 2000 girt and be gentle. You don't have to push. Just lightly slide the paper over the paint. LIGHTLY.
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Old May 21, 2006 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by SICK WS 6
I detailed for a while and had a black GN...
What I would try a is foam pad and some 3M Swirl Mark Remover for Dark Cars. Pretty sure that's what it was called?
Finesse It might work too. Probably some other things that work on dark cars too.
What did you buff it with the first time?
I'm actually not a big fan of anything Meguiars as it's all chalky and makes a freakin' mess.
If you go the wet sand route just use some 2000 girt and be gentle. You don't have to push. Just lightly slide the paper over the paint. LIGHTLY.
Meguiars and chalky?!!!! WOW, never used any Meguiars that was chalky...
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Old May 21, 2006 | 11:27 PM
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Really? I remember using Medium Cut Cleaner (which I think was their #1) and whatever #3 was. Really chalky stuff, so I quit using it a long time ago. 8 years or so I guess.
I think their Hi-Tech Yellow Wax was really chalky too.
Maybe they changed the formula's or something since then.
Hell, I remember I used to think their waxes were really greasy too.
Guess I'm just not a fan.
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Old May 22, 2006 | 12:01 PM
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First you need better products to take car of your paint get microfiber towels, The Absorber, and a Microfiber wash mit. 2nd you need a orbital polisher.

You have a lot of deep scratches on there some will probably not come out without wetsanding and polishing.

you need to wash, clay, wash, then dry with the absorber

Take your orbital polisher out and use the following products on the corresponding colors of the Sonus pads.
Yellow-3m Perfect-It II
white- Meguiars #7 Deep gloss glaze
Blue- NXT or gold class wax.
microfiber bonnet- Take the wax off.

My car was pretty fubard from the previous owner taking it through the automatic car wash and after following these steps it came out looking like this.
I don't have pics of before but trust me it was like yours.
hood shot

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Old May 22, 2006 | 12:16 PM
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i take great care of my car, its just the previous owner scratched it to hell...im gonna have to try some of the things u guys were saying
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Old May 22, 2006 | 10:21 PM
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so no one knows anyone that does wetsanding? or should i just call bodyshops in the area and see
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Old May 23, 2006 | 07:35 AM
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I honestly feel that if you can find a bucket of water and some 2000 grit sandpaper you could do it yourself.
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Old May 26, 2006 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by CashMoney
First you need better products to take car of your paint get microfiber towels, The Absorber, and a Microfiber wash mit. 2nd you need a orbital polisher.

You have a lot of deep scratches on there some will probably not come out without wetsanding and polishing.

you need to wash, clay, wash, then dry with the absorber

Take your orbital polisher out and use the following products on the corresponding colors of the Sonus pads.
Yellow-3m Perfect-It II
white- Meguiars #7 Deep gloss glaze
Blue- NXT or gold class wax.
microfiber bonnet- Take the wax off.

My car was pretty fubard from the previous owner taking it through the automatic car wash and after following these steps it came out looking like this.
I don't have pics of before but trust me it was like yours.
hood shot

Id use Mothers paste Carnuba, outstanding product!
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by JacobK
so no one knows anyone that does wetsanding? or should i just call bodyshops in the area and see
I took a look at your car at steak and shake. I was there, had the lil eclipse a row in front of yours(towards applebees).
Def needs a GOOD GOOD buff, or just a new paint job. A buff will help, but if you are going to keep the car, and have the cash, id get a new look for sure.
Looks tough though, love the cme for sure!
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