beezer1519

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^^^ i'm an E-4 that's going into and E-6 slot lol once i'm done with advance training whenever i go lol i'll be an E-5 and sooner than later an E-6 without the testing

2002t/a06

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im a 4NO51 in the air force. emt-b, basically an lpn. i love my job( of course it sucks at times, but thats with every job). I def dont just screen in patients, i do a lot of procedures and stuff, and im just in a clinical setting right now. Its not that hard to get my medical job in the AF as compared to a radiology tech. talk to your recruiter and tell him what you want. dont settle for anything less. If you can get BMET DO IT. The miserable 11 months you will spend at sheppard are worth it. In the civilian world those people BANK.

rio95cobra

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so your already in the AF in delayed entry? how do you plan on switching to the army after youve already signed your contract and swore in?

BigT2002

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Its not official until the day he leaves and does that sworn in ceremony, and signed on those dotted lines. All he's done is basically a letter of intent to join the AF.

beezer1519

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^^^ what that's not how the army is delayed or not once you raise your right hand your in... no if ands or butts

rio95cobra

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thats probly what they want you to think. I would think after jumping ship on the AF a recruiter from another branch wouldnt really take you seriously...

beezer1519

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^^^ lol you sadly underestimate how bad the army is hurting... i'm pretty sure a lot of people in right now were no where near the needed score on the asvap

BigT2002

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You know you can click the QUOTE button and it quotes the one above ya right just tryin to help you out.

And to my knowledge that is ACROSS the board. The first time you raise your hand after MEPS you are basically doing it as an unofficial way to say "your joining the military for real so you have to start playing by our rules." If anyone knows, feel free to put me in my place here but here is my interpretation 1) was a DEP'er and 2) learned the rules a little more in depth while I was in DEP with some examples:


1) If you get hurt or do something stupid, they just kick you out of DEP and you have to basically go through the paperwork all over again and all that jazz. If you were actually enlisted at that point you would be getting paid at least E-1 pay and if you got hurt could look at the possibility of med boarding you...of which I've never heard of someone getting that.

2) We had a chick that was in DEP with me and she just all the sudden decided she didn't want to join the AF anymore. My recruiter was so pissed he went on a 30 minute rant about how if your not serious about it just walk out the door. 3 other people did and none of those 4 ever faced charges from UCMJ.

3) If your in DEP for over a year you have to go through MEPS all over again because you may have lost some of your physical abilities in that time (least thats what they told me, think it was a way to get you to leave so they finally got their #)

If I'm wrong, I am...its not my job but thats been my take on it for all 5 branches.

PotentialZ28

If you sign the actual enlistment contract at MEPS and raise your right hand and swear in in fromt of an officer, they own you.

PotentialZ28

But he said he didnt have a job, he said he was waiting, which means he hasnt signed an actual contract yet or else he would be at lackland right now getting SP training.

ss1129

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Im a Marien recruiter. You can drop out of the dep at any time for any reason, in any branch. However, if you are depped in the AF and Army guys tried talking you into the Army there would be serious problems. The ******* Army is hurting so bad right now, that I caught them telling kids that the Marines dont pay them while they are in boot camp. Thats okay though, cause the Army needs bonuses and lies to get kids in.

Duffster

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Until your *** is on the bus pulling into boot camp, you can walk at any time. That is not to say you should own up to your commitment. None of the services OWN you at any point. Just that there are repercussions if you do.

The test is the ASVAB (Armed Services Vocational Aptitude BATTERY), not asvap. IF your scores on the ASVAB don't support you getting a medical job in the AF, then they probably won't in the Army or Navy either. The Navy has been supporting the Army for the past 6 years by sending our Medical Corpsmen IA(individual augmentees) in area with Army Battalions.

I agree if another services recruiter continues to talk to you AFTER you've informed them you are already in Delayed Entry, there should be some problems for them, but as has been said, the Army is hurting and some Battalion Commanders reward their recruiters for 'poaching' from other services DEP.

The biggest benefit from AF that I know of as a Navy guy is the women are more attractive and the AF spends money on personnel before equipment. The Navy spends money on training more and if I'm correct, the Army spends money on equipment and everything else can be improvised or grunted-out or sucked-up.

rio95cobra

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im curious, if he jumped out of the airforce in DEP and didnt do army, then decided he made a mistake and wanted back in AF, how would that go

ss1129

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He would probably have to kiss some ***, but its not illegal or anything.

bballr4567

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Trust me go AF.

Im currently a 68W in the Army which is a Combat Medic/Trauma Care Specialist. The job isnt that bad at all but you have a 95% chance of going to a BCT (brigade combat team) which means an infantry unit. If you have ever worked around infantry and have a little bit of smarts you will get very very very bored and pissed off at yourself that you joined the Army. I dont just do blood pressure, temp and all that stupid BS crap. I get to see some jacked up stuff and a lot of time fix it myself. Sutures, check. Staples, check. Set bones, check. Take shrapnel out of wounds, check. Remove cysts, check. You name it Ive pretty much done it except for straight surgery stuff.

So lets recap: GO AF!

On the DEP issue, as long as he has not sworn in at MEPS you can get out of it. The recruiter will act like you have done something wrong but you havent agreed to crap yet except to learn the basics about the branch you are joining. If you want to go back in after you get out just go talk with the recruiter again. Every branch is hurting for numbers so no way will they turn you away especially with high ASVAB numbers.

EndlessSummer85

I would just wait it out man, both the army and air force are a good way to go! Just stay on your recruiter keep calling him and asking if he's heard anything on the med job, if that's what you really want to do. I can tell you that from my experience that either branch is good, and you get out of it what you put in. I was AD Air Force for four years and now i'm in the Army reserve been in about a year. Each has it's ups and downs, and each branch offers something different for everyone. Either way your decision to join the military is a GOOD decision. Oh and whatever you do DON'T let your recruiter talk you in to going in as open/general. That's just them saying were gonna put you where we need you. Just wait until you get your slot. Good luck though man hope it works out for ya!

beezer1519

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believe that they are pretty low... i'd think of it like buying a new car see what salesman treats you the best lol... no but in all honesty you can tell when they are lying the recruiter i just had for the air force reserves wasn't really in any hurry to get me in i had to keep calling to remind him i wanted in... not saying anything bad but it felt great not being the one hassled... just stay air force trust me (i got out of the army)

ss1129

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Your not in the dep until you go to meps and swear in. You can drop out of the dep any time. Its just considered a dep discharge. We get them quite often.

bballr4567

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I was in DEP before I went to MEPS to sign my contract. I would be at my recruiters station and just learn about crap. I guess each branch has a different DEP and different criteria.

J2Pharren1

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Brother, I'm a TACP, you think I'm gonna give you clowns any credit?