ss1129

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Any branch prior service member trying to switch to the Marines has to attend Marine boot camp and you will be a PFC. Its a Fact. Sorry, but we dont **** around with training and military manner in the Corps. BTW Im a Marine recruiter. I will never lose rank if I choose to jump ship to the Army. In fact Im eligible for WO right off the bat.

I dont know how it works for officers though. Ive never seen an officer switch branches.

This **** would never ******* happen in the Marines



I wish I could find the army reserve poster where it says "sometimes the best soldier for the job is a Marine"

I swear to God its a real poster.

496rat

Im putting it out there just like it is. You are training them, and they are getting medical jobs................... In basic training, just like a bunch of others that have to leave on AI'S (apptitude index's)

Of the 5 people that booked jobs for me this month 2 of them had a "guaranteed job" the other 3 had "AI's"

Im just stating the facts as they are.

bballr4567

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Whats funny about that damn picture is that fatass has a HUGE bowl of chocolate ice cream.

Everybody has seen someone in the other service that shouldnt be in.

babydeuce

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Fair enough, makes sence that they are just being "assigned" jobs in basic. I do have many that are garunteed jobs like BMET (4A2's).

Jack

Malicious

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If ya got the goods you got the goods, but I find it hard to believe that ONLY the Marines have such opportunities. I know as Marines you go through intense training, but what makes you so much better that another service you have zip knowledge about will just throw ranks at you. We're all in the fight together in one way or another, I just find it hard to believe people just toss ranks at you because you're a Marine. No offense of course, I'm just confused I guess.

Slimy_Jaime

I agree with Malicious!!! You said it best. I have respect for all the branchs reguardless... But we all have people serving with us that we aren't proud of! we call them "dirtbags" Every branch has 'em... they are like roaches, you can't get rid of them.

BigT2002

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Got taken down when I was in Baghram apparently the Army boys didn't like the AF guys raggin on them

99FormulaM6

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That is not entirely true. That is only true for Army/Marines/AF, but not Navy. You should know that Duff...i see the cookie in your sig

When you goto MEPS and sit with the classifier and they tell you that you are going to be an EM, and you sign that contract agreeing to it, they can't tell you that you're going to be an MA or something. That contract is binding, both ways. If you the Navy says they don't want you to be an EM, they want you to be a MA, you can say 'no thanks' and your contract is null and void and you are not obligated to any service at all. That is only Navy though, the other services have a clause that says they can be reclassified based on the needs of the service.


And like everyone said, you can tell the AF to **** off up until the day you ship from MEPS. And even then, you can goto bootcamp and tell them that the recruiter promised you something, and then it will be considered a fraudulent enlistment and they will give you the option of going home. Granted that will **** over the recruiter bc they have to investigate it, but you will go home if you want.

As a recruiter it sucks having someone drop out of DEP, so I don't want to tell you to go to another service, but if you don't want to go in the AF anymore, get out while you still can.

BigT2002

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The Marines have the most intense and longest boot camp of the 5 branches. They learn more about their history, survival, teamwork, field training, and weaponry than any other branch does in its initial phase. As a Staff, I can move from the AF to the Army/Navy/Coast Guard and keep my E-5 rank. However, going to the Marines....its a whole different story. I've seen Marines in the Air Force stay the same rank they retained in the Corps because they bring not only military knowledge but a different type of leadership that honestly the Support Branches need.

Let me put it to you this way....I learned more in 7 months with the 2MAW than I did in easily 3 years in the Air Force in regards to military bearing, history, and field training.

Malicious

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I'm not saying they don't have the most intense boot camp or anything. I'm just saying I find it hard to believe they can just jump to any branch with people begging for them and throwing ranks at them like the other guy made it sound. Not saying they'll take a rank cut, but theres no way someone who for whatever reason went AF from the Corps, and went from an E5 to an E7 with basically no knowledge of the AF except the 2 week course or whatever they go through when they enlist prior service. Hard to accept guidance from a SNCO who knows very little about how things run in a completely different branch. I'd just like to see it in writing and I'll gladly admit that I'm wrong.

BigT2002

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The only time I've ever seen that is when they go Reserves/Guard and that goes for anyone. I don't think I've ever seen someone jump rank. The only exception I can think of is E-1 to E-4 with TIS/TIG applying. Its harder for a LCpl to become a Cpl than it is for a A1C to make SrA.

Malicious

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Very true... besides time constraints, making rank in the AF isn't all that hard.

Yeah, don't be a dumbass and A1C to SrA is easy lol...

BigT2002

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thats the "Congrats you didn't **** up for 3 years" promotion. Kinda like making Capt

Malicious

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BigT2002

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I emailed the Career advisor here to more info though

ss1129

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Its a different story for Marines trying to go AF. Im sure we can keep our rank, but from my knowledge the AF doesnt take to many prior service Marines.

As for Marine training..our boot camp is 13 weeks, then our combat training alone is an extra month. Then you go to your job school. From there the Marine Corps Institute is almost mandatory to pick up rank. You lose 100 points off your cutting score by not doing them. Plus we have Cpls and Sergeants course..which is nothing but leadership/management classes for two weeks for Cpls and about a month for Sgts. We eat sleep drink and breath military. You will find that the average kid doesnt join the Marines for the G.I. Bill....but because they want to change who they are or make a difference in the world. They come to us for the intangibles.

Malicious

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I have nothing but respect for anyone who joins the Corps, brotha... You all are a different breed of tough and it takes a special person. I happen to NOT be one of those special people There was a time when I was going to enlist in the Corps, but I decided to go a different route, with a little poke from my father (USAF E9).. And yeah, I know a few USAF recruiters and getting in prior service is a joke anymore. There's like 300 slots a year and those fill up within literally like minutes after the numbers release.

killed712

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If you like to be on a ship with a bunch of Seamen (mostly men)for months at a time and live in cramped or confined spaces GO NAVY. If you want to go gung-ho and have your ability to make decisions or use your commonsense become a MARINE(the Marines have no medical section, they use the NAVY Medical Corpsmen). If you want to whine about the sat TV not working, the AC is not cold enough, and the paper cut, join the AIRFARCE(too many people to do a simple job and no *****!). The Army has more medical jobs then the other Military services as well as the ability for you to make a difference to a wounded/injured military member. You can go in as a combat Medic with a Unit of action, you can become a 18 series Specical Forces Medic or you can work in one of many ARMY Hospitals around the country. It will not be as easy as the other services, but you will get more chances for training and travel. I am in ARMY Aviation and you can even become an AREO Medic and do medivac missions. Remember you have to willing to work hard where ever you go , which ever service you decide on thank you for serving where few dare.

Duffster

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Trying to be a little biased here and perpetuate false stereotypes?

Unless you're misinformed yourself, the Navy is roughly 18-20% women.

Months at a time? Again, trying to say we don't travel or visit foreign ports is a false statement. Typical deployments result in 2-3 weeks out, in a port somewhere, 2-3 weeks out, in a port somewhere. The typical 6-8 month deployment results with periods of about 1 1/2 - 2 months in port.

Subs (voluntary only) are more confined, but still have 'adequate' space.


I'm an electrician, so I can't speak about medical training, but I DO KNOW we've got x-ray techs, dental techs (that is medical), orthopedics, physical therapy specialists, lab techs and your general 'what’s wrong w/you today' types, BUT again, back to what you said about deployed w/Marines, tell that Marine his doc can't treat him with adequate care and you'll have a squad of Marines around you in a not so happy fashion. They protect their NAVY Corpsmen.


I would never assume any other services medical training is easier. You yourself said you're aviation, and have not attended medical school. A bit asinine to make a comment concerning the intensity of another services school. As far as 'more chances for...travel.' You seriously just need to Anyone else wanna chime in on these comments?

babydeuce

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Wow, up on a high horse are we......not to mention a little misinformed.

I wont sit here and defend my air force as not being a bit whiny, but lets not forget they split from the army for a reason, and fulfill a mission that is just as essential as your beloved army.

Last time I checked, Air Force folks were getting killed outside the wire just like army, so grow the **** up and support all the military folks who are giving their lives in the line of duty.

As far as medical, enlisted in the Air Force have 15 career fields for enlisted medical, and several others for officer. We do the MAJORITY of medivac missions both in and out of the combat zone. My AF combat medics may not be embedded in the units in the field, but just about all of the field hospitals are made up of AF enlisted surgical techs and combat medics.

The AF also has some of the best hospitals both stateside and overseas...remember the Walter Reed debacle, great job there by the army for taking care of their folks.

In 2011 ALL medical training will be Tri-service taught in the same classroom by Army, AF, and Navy intructors, so ALL medical training will be damn near identical.

I understand that you have pride in what you do, but dont **** on the rest of us that did not go the same route as you. EVERY BRANCH is there for a reason, or else uncle sam would have saved some coin years ago by shutting them down.

Jack