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Old 02-09-2011, 05:07 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7eD0...layer_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7eD0...layer_embedded

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=12878182
here is a article

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/02/09/2...-chicago-2011/
another article lots of pics

Well its called the ZL1 not the Z28 Pretty cool video.

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Old 02-09-2011, 05:13 PM
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It's a shame. There should ALWAYS be a Z/28 as long as there are Camaros in production. The ZL1 is a sacred badge, and GM is ONCE AGAIN (as they did with SS) defacing the value of this badge!
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They'll come out with a Z/28 eventually. IMO I think it was a good idea naming it a ZL1. The Z was never faster than an SS so why change now?
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Just added a article
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I have yet to see a price tag..
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Z28 is a boss 302 equal
ZL1 is a GT500 equal

Still time for a Z28 to come out
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saw this at the car show the other day...sick car
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Originally Posted by DaSkinnyGuy
Z28 is a boss 302 equal
ZL1 is a GT500 equal

Still time for a Z28 to come out
Werd.
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Originally Posted by beltrame02WS6
They'll come out with a Z/28 eventually. IMO I think it was a good idea naming it a ZL1. The Z was never faster than an SS so why change now?
Didn't get that either. Z should've came out first with the SS being this car.
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correct me if im wrong but the orignal camaros. first gen

went
base camaro
rs package
ss package
rs/ss
then the z28 /z28rs kinda deal

up untill the 4th gens, the z28 was always meaner then the SS, granted the 375/396 was rated more i do belive the 302 z28 was hugley underrated with lots of info to back theat up now...should be a z28

zl1's where a HUGLEY rare car i thought being it was a copo option
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Originally Posted by 94m6Z28
correct me if im wrong but the orignal camaros. first gen

went
base camaro
rs package
ss package
rs/ss
then the z28 /z28rs kinda deal

up untill the 4th gens, the z28 was always meaner then the SS, granted the 375/396 was rated more i do belive the 302 z28 was hugley underrated with lots of info to back theat up now...should be a z28

zl1's where a HUGLEY rare car i thought being it was a copo option
^^THIS!

And then there was the Big Block ZL1 Camaros that were just insane!

The Z/28 was always the road-racing, street performance car.
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1969
(Z-28) 302/290bhp: 0-60 in 7.4 sec, 1/4 mile in 15.12 sec @ 94.8mph.
(SS396) 396/375bhp: 0-60 in 6.8 sec, 1/4 mile in 14.7 sec @ 98.7mph.
(COPO 9561) 427/425bhp: 0-60 in 5.4 sec, 1/4 mile in 13.5 sec @ 102mph.
(COPO 9560) 427/430bhp: 0-60 in 5.3 sec, 1/4 mile in 13.16 sec @ 110 mph.
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I don't see the SS badge as being very special when it comes to a Camaro, especially in the 60s and 70s were the Z28 is MUCH more sought after these days. I do think using the ZL1 badge on this current Camaro is stupid.
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Never was a true badge in the first place.

Z28 is still planned. Hope GM releases it as a track pack style car.
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Originally Posted by jc98ss
1969
(Z-28) 302/290bhp: 0-60 in 7.4 sec, 1/4 mile in 15.12 sec @ 94.8mph.
(SS396) 396/375bhp: 0-60 in 6.8 sec, 1/4 mile in 14.7 sec @ 98.7mph.
(COPO 9561) 427/425bhp: 0-60 in 5.4 sec, 1/4 mile in 13.5 sec @ 102mph.
(COPO 9560) 427/430bhp: 0-60 in 5.3 sec, 1/4 mile in 13.16 sec @ 110 mph.
is this to show that the SS was quicker in the 1/4 then the Z?
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Originally Posted by 94m6Z28
is this to show that the SS was quicker in the 1/4 then the Z?
that's just what i found when i looked up e/t of 69' camaros.....i've always heard that ALL of them were underrated, seems like i seen a dyno on tv one time where a DZ302 did like 390hp at the flywheel in stock trim.....i know the SS 396's were torque monsters, the Yenko 427's were even stouter
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Originally Posted by jc98ss
1969
(Z-28) 302/290bhp: 0-60 in 7.4 sec, 1/4 mile in 15.12 sec @ 94.8mph.
(SS396) 396/375bhp: 0-60 in 6.8 sec, 1/4 mile in 14.7 sec @ 98.7mph.
(COPO 9561) 427/425bhp: 0-60 in 5.4 sec, 1/4 mile in 13.5 sec @ 102mph.
(COPO 9560) 427/430bhp: 0-60 in 5.3 sec, 1/4 mile in 13.16 sec @ 110 mph.
These numbers were before the headers/cross-ram intake/etc. that came in the trunk of the Z from the factory were installed

I think it's a good thing they used this badge instead of the Z-28 for this particular car. The Z-28 has (and should always be ) a stripped of all non-performance items and yet loaded with performance options as a track ready version.

I'm hoping they are holding off on the Z-28 for the Alpha platform, it will be smaller, lighter and more taught. They will also have the 475hp DI 5.5L Gen V engine by then, so that should go into it. Then add T6060 trans with the new corvette launch control/no lift shift/auto rev matching/ competition traction control system, adjustable Koni's or magnetic shocks, adjustable coil-overs, adjustable sway bars, ZR1 carbon metallic brakes (steel brake brembo optional), Corvette traction control system, CF panels, stripped of all power options, no sunroof, no huge stereo, no redundant steering wheel buttons, lightweight seats, etc. Oh and under 3400lbs

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I would rather have a ctsv! The camaro will not be the same ever again...Its too heavy, too big and does not reflect its past..
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Originally Posted by djsanchez2
These numbers were before the headers/cross-ram intake/etc. that came in the trunk of the Z from the factory were installed

I think it's a good thing they used this badge instead of the Z-28 for this particular car. The Z-28 has (and should always be ) a stripped of all non-performance items and yet loaded with performance options as a track ready version.
I have heard this form many different older guys who used to have these cars new. That is the z28 was faster than the SS's they underrated them and missed the the 1/4 times. I have also heard about all the performance parts in the trunk too.
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Originally Posted by djsanchez2
These numbers were before the headers/cross-ram intake/etc. that came in the trunk of the Z from the factory were installed

I think it's a good thing they used this badge instead of the Z-28 for this particular car. The Z-28 has (and should always be ) a stripped of all non-performance items and yet loaded with performance options as a track ready version.

I'm hoping they are holding off on the Z-28 for the Alpha platform, it will be smaller, lighter and more taught. They will also have the 475hp DI 5.5L Gen V engine by then, so that should go into it. Then add T6060 trans with the new corvette launch control/no lift shift/auto rev matching/ competition traction control system, adjustable Koni's or magnetic shocks, adjustable coil-overs, adjustable sway bars, ZR1 carbon metallic brakes (steel brake brembo optional), Corvette traction control system, CF panels, stripped of all power options, no sunroof, no huge stereo, no redundant steering wheel buttons, lightweight seats, etc. Oh and under 3400lbs

that should be a zl1, z28 should have all the goodies and a big motor..if they are wanting to stay first gen ish


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