"My twin turbo/big turbo, nitrous, full bolt on car makes more power than your sbc stroker"

 

Motivation would be a good reason, why something that you cant drive on the street?

BTW whats wrong with Marlboros?


A mod hasn't told me to leave yet

 

Orly?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gatDw...eature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq5BG...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-nzZ...eature=related

All around 800whp and those were old *** videos from the early 2000's

Get back to me when you get some new jokes genius.

 

no, nothing wrong with th400 and such, but i was talking about the 700r4 combo'd with that motor that was put in that car. where are you guys going with these arguments? try to make a point and you jump all over trying to counter with irrelevant info about things that we weren't talking about.... to be clear, we are talking about that carb'd 421 and the 700r4 taking up valuable space in a car that deserves better




WOW, you don't care but you cant stop commenting, yep you care.

oh and you mention a pushrod that pulls over 300mph? wait, are you talking about funnycars? so lets get this straight, you are trying to compare an engine that is bored out so far with a special filled block, heads with valve so damn large they might as well be cylinders. a car that runs down the strip and has to be rebuilt every other time it makes a run, not to mention that the spark plugs don't last through the first half of the run...

yeah, lets compare that to a 2jz..


here is the funny thing, the fastest SUPRA using stock components, no tubbing, its OWN ENGINE. is far faster than anything GM you could name that hasn't been tubbed out, rear end swapped, with a new trans and engine from a different car.

we at least pride ourselves on making the car and what it has faster, not swapping it out with something and making it some sort of frankshit car made up of ten other cars. then still try to call it something with a name.

i remember lining up against an old 67 camaro at the drag strip years ago when i was in my little cressida, it was only at 390hp then. on a stock stall.. i thought for sure i was gonna get beat on. that thing sounded NASTY, had slicks at least 14" wide and 28" tall... tubbed, ******* beast looking car... the guy was talkin about how he was making clean runs all night.... we lined up, he got a MASSIVE jump on me... my stall was stock after all, but after the 60' foot, i caught up and passed him like he was standing still..


moral of the story.... you can make all the supra 12 sec 800 hp jokes you want, but i know of more domestics that try to sound fast, put on slicks, and still cant do 13 LOL


read the above comment... you achieve it how? its a 1 run motor, supra have done a lot better on the actual components that came with the car than the gm cars have. like i said, at least we have pride in using the parts on the car so we can still call it a supra as opposed to calling it a GchevordontiacM.

very true, like in here though, a lot of people just say "pshhhh, its an import motor, you can make better power with a 70's SBC" which is untrue, they just don't know how to make the power because all they know is the SBC platform, so they want to keep using what they know instead of learning something knew..... i've built a 350 and put it in a 69 c-10 project i had back in hawaii, i've built my old 7mgte cressida swap from the ground up which was an i6 turbo.. hell i even had an old civic as my first car. and my want to do a bored/stroked small block in a late 40's chevy deluxe sometime soon.

certain engines have a certain place, unfortunately he put this one in the wrong place because there was something better in there before and there was no need to do the swap in the first place... if no one can even see that, then oh well. looks like any other closed minded forum that can't see past their own culture of *rip engine out, throw in sbc, create car better than anything on the road!*

how would any of you guys that claim that 421 is a good option post then? obvious troll comments lol

 

to be clear. its a built SBC, cracked open to add 9.9 pistons, forged rods, forged crank, alum heads.

vs.

a car that got an intake, exhaust, and turbo kit put on it.... no nitrous, why do you guys think it needs nitrous? this isn't some inefficient V8 that can't push out power at higher rpms.

 

lmao!!!

on a serious note, Kracing.... just stop. please. you hurting our feeling with your complete knowledge of everything. thank you.

On a lesser serious note, anyone wanna swap a bpu 2jz motor for my bolt-on ls6?

 

..I read that.

Awwww ****...





This has definately gone to crap..

 

Lets be fair here,












Nitrous is a **** load of fun

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-71v1qQO8HE

 

Is this your way of admitting to being wrong?

I guess you missed "All their 2JZ info is copied directly from Supra forums".
Thanks for playing.

I should have figured, the point went right over your head. Ill try to dumb things down for you a little more here.
You're comparing the gas mileage of a 3400lbs car with 6 gears to 4000lbs+ cars with 3 or 4 gears. Put that engine in the same car with the same gears and gas mileage will be close, again this is not rocket science.

I guess you don't know what that means... Look up "hypocrisy."

A turbo is a bolt on now? I wonder what would happen if you bolted on that turbo to the 421...
Did I say that?
Who said anything about 0 RPMs?
Uh, a SBC V8? And Im not talking about your peak torque, Im talking about the torque curve.
Dyno pic?
My REAL point is you clearly dont know what he wants, otherwise you wouldn't be crying hysterically like this.

A modded 2Jz is capable of making more power than this particular setup, just like you can add more mods to this setup and make more power.
hp/l is NOT efficiency because hp is hp is hp, doesn't matter if it came from a 1L engine or a 10L engine. What does matter is weight . A more efficient engine will make more hp/weight.
Would you rather have a 5L engine that made 400hp but weighed 350lbs, or a 4L engine that made 400hp but weighed 600lbs?

So the 2JZ needs more valves, cams and is using FI and has to rev higher to match some "old POS" engine?
Your arguments are the typical high school rice boy cry baby, go back to reading import tuner...

It was built to use FI from the factory, so like almost ever other engine that uses FI from the factory it can take quite a bit more boost. Ever heard of the Grand National? Nothing advanced about that "old tech" pushrod V6, but it could make some stupid power with boost.

 

There is a reason the 2JZ has not been in continuous production..Pushrod V8's are being made every day.

I'll put my money on a GNX making the same power as a Poopra anyday.

 

This is the first thread where a turbo kit has ever been considered a "bolt-on."

Seems that the 5.3 now holds the "boltons" record.

 

When did the GNX get tossed into this ******* argument? And besides, they STILL cant hold the power a 2jz can on STOCK ******* INTERNALS. Their rear ends also blow up (just like yours) and their transmissions need to be built as hell to handle the power.

Let me beat you with your own logic, a Viper can make the same horsepower as a built SMALL BLOCK, therefore OHV motors are better.

 

What Supra are you talking about?
Whats really funny is how butt hurt your getting, and trying to justify the greatness of the Supra by limiting other makes to certain standards (or excuses rather). Why does it matter if some parts are stock and others are not? Either way you are modding the car.

Most pride themselves on building their car, or going fast with it, not just only swapping certain parts to go fast.
Why do you swap out your stock clutch with an aftermarket one? Why do you swap your stock turbos to bigger twins or a single? ZOMG you are frankshit da car cauze itz not factery!!!!!!

 

yes it is

ugh, another gnx comment. there is more to a car manufacturers decisions than the use of an engine... i wonder why lamborghini and ferrari don't keep using the same engine platform over and over and over again? must be shitty engines. of course thats it...... wait.. maybe gm is a just so cheap they keep re-using the same design over and over again even though it isn't nearly as efficient as the new engines out these days.. or wait, maybe... the fan base is so close minded they cry and cry if anything with less than 8 cylinders is produced because they want their precious SBC to live on forever? im going with the latter... hence why the newest corvette was going to come with a super high revving turbocharged engine....... but.... still going to have an option for some high discplacement v8 that can't even match the power and capabilities of the other engine said to be avail.....?

gonna quote myself here cause all of you seem to not read your own forum either

 

uh...yeahh... lets see.. those factory and non factory things are very major components im talking about... basically your saying you are gonna drive a shell to the track made up of 100 different cars, and when you beat someone you are gonna say "hahhaha, my little old nova beat your supra like it was nothing"... and then you pop the hood, and its an engine from a damn ford, combined with a ford 9 inch rear, a viper's transmission and driveshaft, and basically the only thing nova left on the car.... is the paint.

congrats? what the **** is the point of that.


and fyi. changing a clutch is a common thing anyway, not exactly the same as changing the whole trans or rear end for another cars. besides you don't toss a clutch from a nissan into a toyota, lol. what the **** is with all this redneck knowledge out here?

 

kracin, you sir are a ******* retard..

You DO realize that wrecked Supra TTs sell for almost 10 grand right? This car has brand new paint, new rims, new tires, killer stereo, built trans, TRD LSD rear, and a $9k 530 HP motor in it that sounds like the world is coming to an end. It's easily worth 20 grand.

Apparently, though, you think the motor is "worthless." Wow. And I do find it pathetic that the Supra FANBOIZ have to come over here and jack off 2JZs. Oh, and get some new material, the "redneck" talk is getting real old.

Sooo what Supra do you drive? Fool probably owns a MK3.

The guy is comparing putting on headers to throwing on an entire turbo kit! How can you be so stupid?

 

You supra guys have really inspired me. The 2JZ is so much better than a lsx or sbc. Ive decided to sell both my cars and buy a supra... You guys are idiots. What do you expect us to do? Want us to bow down to you and say, Your so right We were wrong this whole time? Thats not going to happen. This is LS1TECH not 2JZTECH. We like our lsx and sbc or grand nationals lol which is why we are part of these forums. If we liked 2jz's and imports we would be on your forums. Your rediculous talk is doing nothing but proving that some supra owners are stuck up *** holes. Oh and by the way I saw a couple supra guys joined the SVT boards too. Guess they feel there going to inspire some Ford guys also.

 

It is sad, isn't it.

 

I have a spare GTE long block sitting in my garage that's just waiting to go into something. If you are serious, PM me

Again... my offer of $5k still stands

What's sad is your poor excuse for a car.