94 Supra with 421 stroker smallblock swap
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kracin, you sir are a ******* retard..
You DO realize that wrecked Supra TTs sell for almost 10 grand right? This car has brand new paint, new rims, new tires, killer stereo, built trans, TRD LSD rear, and a $9k 530 HP motor in it that sounds like the world is coming to an end. It's easily worth 20 grand.
a tt roller is worth 12-13 with nothing on it.. a salvage tt roller is worth maybe 7 that is what he has there lol. how are you getting 10 grand for a roller. 10 grand will get you a full functional N/A which is the same thing as a TT, just different VIN... also. the vin has never been verified by him to be a tt either, he just says he THINKS it is. so he is hoping and dreaming.
we have had to go through **** crap before with the last guy that said he has 50k worth of parts on his car, so it is worth 50k to sell... its a salvage title supra that might be a tt shell but who knows... with no supra drivetrain or engine, that has an engine that cost 9k... he MIGHT get 12k out of it, people who buy those cars aren't looking for some chevy motor in it... his best bet is parting it out.
its easily NOT worth near 20 grand lol, thank god i have some redneck to show me the price of a car i own. i should just sell my car to the next guy who rolls up on me and says "DUUUUDE A SUPRA!! ill buy it right now for 20k!!! id get a deal of a lifetime right? cause he said so... right?
Apparently, though, you think the motor is "worthless." Wow. And I do find it pathetic that the Supra FANBOIZ have to come over here and jack off 2JZs. Oh, and get some new material, the "redneck" talk is getting real old.
i think that motor in that car is worthless. put that motor in a big *** heavy 70's muscle car and you have found a good use for it.
Sooo what Supra do you drive? Fool probably owns a MK3.
i drive a prius
The guy is comparing putting on headers to throwing on an entire turbo kit! How can you be so stupid?
not sure how you can't make the comparison?? ls1... remove stock header and exhaust... add on after market tubular headers and full exhaust.
supra, remove stock header and exhaust (which has a turbo attached to it, and not to mention when we remove the stock turbos. we leave the whole assembly in tact and just unbolt the mani... so yes. just remove the mani). attach aftermarket tubular manifold and exhaust... which has a turbo attached to it.
congrats you have now done the exact same thing... except.. wait you are right, my bad, we do have to tighten down 4 more bolts.... **** that eliminates that mod
You DO realize that wrecked Supra TTs sell for almost 10 grand right? This car has brand new paint, new rims, new tires, killer stereo, built trans, TRD LSD rear, and a $9k 530 HP motor in it that sounds like the world is coming to an end. It's easily worth 20 grand.
a tt roller is worth 12-13 with nothing on it.. a salvage tt roller is worth maybe 7 that is what he has there lol. how are you getting 10 grand for a roller. 10 grand will get you a full functional N/A which is the same thing as a TT, just different VIN... also. the vin has never been verified by him to be a tt either, he just says he THINKS it is. so he is hoping and dreaming.
we have had to go through **** crap before with the last guy that said he has 50k worth of parts on his car, so it is worth 50k to sell... its a salvage title supra that might be a tt shell but who knows... with no supra drivetrain or engine, that has an engine that cost 9k... he MIGHT get 12k out of it, people who buy those cars aren't looking for some chevy motor in it... his best bet is parting it out.
its easily NOT worth near 20 grand lol, thank god i have some redneck to show me the price of a car i own. i should just sell my car to the next guy who rolls up on me and says "DUUUUDE A SUPRA!! ill buy it right now for 20k!!! id get a deal of a lifetime right? cause he said so... right?
Apparently, though, you think the motor is "worthless." Wow. And I do find it pathetic that the Supra FANBOIZ have to come over here and jack off 2JZs. Oh, and get some new material, the "redneck" talk is getting real old.
i think that motor in that car is worthless. put that motor in a big *** heavy 70's muscle car and you have found a good use for it.
Sooo what Supra do you drive? Fool probably owns a MK3.
i drive a prius
The guy is comparing putting on headers to throwing on an entire turbo kit! How can you be so stupid?
not sure how you can't make the comparison?? ls1... remove stock header and exhaust... add on after market tubular headers and full exhaust.
supra, remove stock header and exhaust (which has a turbo attached to it, and not to mention when we remove the stock turbos. we leave the whole assembly in tact and just unbolt the mani... so yes. just remove the mani). attach aftermarket tubular manifold and exhaust... which has a turbo attached to it.
congrats you have now done the exact same thing... except.. wait you are right, my bad, we do have to tighten down 4 more bolts.... **** that eliminates that mod
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You supra guys have really inspired me. The 2JZ is so much better than a lsx or sbc. Ive decided to sell both my cars and buy a supra... You guys are idiots. What do you expect us to do? Want us to bow down to you and say, Your so right We were wrong this whole time? Thats not going to happen. This is LS1TECH not 2JZTECH. We like our lsx and sbc or grand nationals lol which is why we are part of these forums. If we liked 2jz's and imports we would be on your forums. Your rediculous talk is doing nothing but proving that some supra owners are stuck up *** holes. Oh and by the way I saw a couple supra guys joined the SVT boards too. Guess they feel there going to inspire some Ford guys also.
ssmokin said "uhhhhh... gay" and the op responded in kind calling him a ******.. we are just entertaining his childlike demeanor of not accepting criticism, hence why this thread is so long and chocked full of his responses when he could just end it by saying "to each his own"... but nope, he is just the same. an elitist ******* that claims that he made an upgrade to the car.
i do know where you are coming from though, but the spice in life is sometimes found in a rednecks garage in the form of an outdated engine being shoved into a car that was better to start.
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Wow, you are incomprehensibly stupid.
First off, learn how to quote properly. It's not hard. Secondly, I own the car posted, just to clarify since you obviously missed that, genius.
I will have no problem getting $20k for this car. If you think otherwise you're an idiot, plain and simple. Going on and on with the "redneck" insults, so predictable and lame. Wouldn't expect anything else from a Supra fanboy though, they get all butthurt at the slightest things but attempt to dish it out constantly.
So the engine in the car is "worthless" yet if I put it in a heavier car it's no longer worthless?
Brilliant, just brilliant. It gets the Supra moving just fine, thanks. If you're going to be talking about a 530 HP motor as worthless then you had better be driving something making some ridiculous power or you just look like a fool. (I.E. you)
And now to my favorite part...NO ONE, I MEAN NO ONE on Earth considers a turbo kit upgrade to be a bolt-on. Even Supra people use queer little terms like BPU for a bolt on car or APU (Advanced Performance Upgrades) to talk about cars with single turbo upgrades. Now, since you think you know so much about Supras, does something "advanced" (using your own groups terminology) sound like a bolt-on to you? You're just ******* retarded, plain and simple.
I guess the LS1 owners that have turbo kits on their cars refer to them as bolt-on cars, right? Just took off the stock manifolds and bolted on a few hundred HP! Yep, that Procharger just bolted right on, I must have a bolt-on car because I used bolts!
Who knew?
First off, learn how to quote properly. It's not hard. Secondly, I own the car posted, just to clarify since you obviously missed that, genius.
I will have no problem getting $20k for this car. If you think otherwise you're an idiot, plain and simple. Going on and on with the "redneck" insults, so predictable and lame. Wouldn't expect anything else from a Supra fanboy though, they get all butthurt at the slightest things but attempt to dish it out constantly.
So the engine in the car is "worthless" yet if I put it in a heavier car it's no longer worthless?
Brilliant, just brilliant. It gets the Supra moving just fine, thanks. If you're going to be talking about a 530 HP motor as worthless then you had better be driving something making some ridiculous power or you just look like a fool. (I.E. you)And now to my favorite part...NO ONE, I MEAN NO ONE on Earth considers a turbo kit upgrade to be a bolt-on. Even Supra people use queer little terms like BPU for a bolt on car or APU (Advanced Performance Upgrades) to talk about cars with single turbo upgrades. Now, since you think you know so much about Supras, does something "advanced" (using your own groups terminology) sound like a bolt-on to you? You're just ******* retarded, plain and simple.
I guess the LS1 owners that have turbo kits on their cars refer to them as bolt-on cars, right? Just took off the stock manifolds and bolted on a few hundred HP! Yep, that Procharger just bolted right on, I must have a bolt-on car because I used bolts!
Who knew?
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Riiiight, because making a comment on a forum that you're a contributing member of is completely equal to someone coming over here from somewhere else, to a forum about cars they know nothing about, registering, and running their mouth in a single thread.
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It was built to use FI from the factory, so like almost ever other engine that uses FI from the factory it can take quite a bit more boost. Ever heard of the Grand National? Nothing advanced about that "old tech" pushrod V6, but it could make some stupid power with boost.
Damn LS1tech is turnin into ricer fest. This is why we all cant collectively talk about cars like mature adults with open minds.
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no, nothing wrong with th400 and such, but i was talking about the 700r4 combo'd with that motor that was put in that car. where are you guys going with these arguments? try to make a point and you jump all over trying to counter with irrelevant info about things that we weren't talking about.... to be clear, we are talking about that carb'd 421 and the 700r4 taking up valuable space in a car that deserves better
oh and you mention a pushrod that pulls over 300mph? wait, are you talking about funnycars? so lets get this straight, you are trying to compare an engine that is bored out so far with a special filled block, heads with valve so damn large they might as well be cylinders. a car that runs down the strip and has to be rebuilt every other time it makes a run, not to mention that the spark plugs don't last through the first half of the run...
yeah, lets compare that to a 2jz..
yeah, lets compare that to a 2jz..
here is the funny thing, the fastest SUPRA using stock components, no tubbing, its OWN ENGINE. is far faster than anything GM you could name that hasn't been tubbed out, rear end swapped, with a new trans and engine from a different car.
to be clear. its a built SBC, cracked open to add 9.9 pistons, forged rods, forged crank, alum heads.
vs.
a car that got an intake, exhaust, and turbo kit put on it.... no nitrous, why do you guys think it needs nitrous? this isn't some inefficient V8 that can't push out power at higher rpms.
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a car that got an intake, exhaust, and turbo kit put on it.... no nitrous, why do you guys think it needs nitrous? this isn't some inefficient V8 that can't push out power at higher rpms.
I just don't understand the logic that completely redoing the entire turbo system is a "bolt on" only because the car was originally a twin turbo car or whatever....in the end you are still replacing everything just like the car was N/A.
Since it is no more work to "bolt on" a turbo kit to a stripped turbo 2jz, bolting on a similar turbo kit to the v8 should be just as fair.
The nitrous was brought up by the Supra clan btw...
What I want to see is the 421 Supra race a real bolt on Supra of the same/similar RWHP both from a dig and ~30mph roll.
I missed it..and I dont feel like reading through the trash..
Someone is calling a Turbo a BOLT-ON??
Edit..found it.
Seriously?
Some people dont understand that.
Is that bolt-ons with or without a Turbo..since that is a Bolt-on now..
Someone is calling a Turbo a BOLT-ON??
Edit..found it.
actually.. boltons and you get over 900. intake, exhaust, boost controller, turbo kit, fuel and piggyback EMS will net you that, and it will hold it. not a lot of people choose to use nitrous, i was merely stating that a 50 shot on the stock turbos will net the same hp that that BUILT SBC is putting out.
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I love how he can't decide if it's a "70s redneck engine" or a "built engine". Built is a relative term but that engine is not fully built to all it's capable of N/A.
So apparently if you talk to the import kids its not uncommon to refer to entire turbo upgrade cars as "bolt on". Who knew? I just want to know why they can tear half the car apart and replace it with significant $$$$ upgrades and it's "bolt on". But if I flip the manifolds on my Silverado and bolt up a turbo kit...
Upgrading displacement is not a bolt on. Be it stroker kit, blower increase, or turbo size increase.
So apparently if you talk to the import kids its not uncommon to refer to entire turbo upgrade cars as "bolt on". Who knew? I just want to know why they can tear half the car apart and replace it with significant $$$$ upgrades and it's "bolt on". But if I flip the manifolds on my Silverado and bolt up a turbo kit...
Upgrading displacement is not a bolt on. Be it stroker kit, blower increase, or turbo size increase.
Last edited by thunderstruck507; Dec 23, 2011 at 10:10 AM.
I love how he can't decide if it's a "70s redneck engine" or a "built engine". Built is a relative term but that engine is not fully built to all it's capable of N/A.
So apparently if you talk to the import kids its not uncommon to refer to entire turbo upgrade cars as "bolt on". Who knew? I just want to know why they can tear half the car apart and replace it with significant $$$$ upgrades and it's "bolt on". But if I flip the manifolds on my Silverado and bolt up a turbo kit...
Upgrading displacement is not a bolt on. Be it stroker kit, blower increase, or turbo size increase.
So apparently if you talk to the import kids its not uncommon to refer to entire turbo upgrade cars as "bolt on". Who knew? I just want to know why they can tear half the car apart and replace it with significant $$$$ upgrades and it's "bolt on". But if I flip the manifolds on my Silverado and bolt up a turbo kit...
Upgrading displacement is not a bolt on. Be it stroker kit, blower increase, or turbo size increase.
So is an Engine Swap a bolt-on? Or a bolt in?
Just tryin to be clear here so I can properly list the mods for my MCSS.
Oh and BTW my .030" over Pistons were Bolt on..they went in with custom .927 Bolts..not Wristpins. Does that count?
The Eagle Rods were Bolt-on with the ARP Rod Bolts..we just put the Bolts through the Pistons to make it true 100% Bolt-on.
The Eagle Rods were Bolt-on with the ARP Rod Bolts..we just put the Bolts through the Pistons to make it true 100% Bolt-on.