94 Supra with 421 stroker smallblock swap
If someone says "bolt on ls1" car you can be fairly certain you are talking about a 330-350 rwhp car.
The only reasons I can see someone diluting the term to include serious upgrades to forced induction parts are: if the person is a sleazy liar of a street race hustler or they want to make themselves feel special since they're calling a car with triple its original HP or more something less to downplay the work and cost involved to elevate what they're working with to unicorn status.
http://www.supraforums.com/forum/sho...1-V8-MK4-Supra...
I guess some of them are trollin over here to **** on the OP..
You DO realize that wrecked Supra TTs sell for almost 10 grand right? This car has brand new paint, new rims, new tires, killer stereo, built trans, TRD LSD rear, and a $9k 530 HP motor in it that sounds like the world is coming to an end. It's easily worth 20 grand.
Apparently, though, you think the motor is "worthless." Wow. And I do find it pathetic that the Supra FANBOIZ have to come over here and jack off 2JZs. Oh, and get some new material, the "redneck" talk is getting real old.
Sooo what Supra do you drive? Fool probably owns a MK3.

The guy is comparing putting on headers to throwing on an entire turbo kit! How can you be so stupid?
2, no way in hell will he EVER be able to get that much for the car. People know they are going to get lowballed on wrecked/salvage supras, so they over-inflate the price and hope that they get an offer for what they want out of the car.
3, ok, your a hick. I will stop with the redneck talk (yes, there is a difference between a hick and a redneck)
4, I do own a MKIII. I would feel too bad putting a MKIV into a wall at the track, MKIII shells can be found all day for 1k, and with the right mounts the 2jz bolts right in

5, Your right, it will probably take you longer to install headers on your cars.
If someone says "bolt on ls1" car you can be fairly certain you are talking about a 330-350 rwhp car.
The only reasons I can see someone diluting the term to include serious upgrades to forced induction parts are: if the person is a sleazy liar of a street race hustler or they want to make themselves feel special since they're calling a car with triple its original HP or more something less to downplay the work and cost involved to elevate what they're working with to unicorn status.
http://www.supraforums.com/forum/sho...1-V8-MK4-Supra...
I guess some of them are trollin over here to **** on the OP..
They are 290-300rwhp stock. Headers and exhaust alone will add 20-30hp with tune for them. Then you still have intake lid, underdrive pulley, ported tb, intake manifold swaps, electric water pumps, etc etc etc.
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Tuned with full Exhaust(Headers & decent piping) and Intake(Lid with good Filter) will pull 350 at the ground no problem on a stick car.


I'll elaborate..




You don't think bolt-on LS1s are 330-350whp cars?...

Get yourself a clue buddy...and maybe a life considering you have nothing better to do than troll other car forums. Can someone ban this joker?
You don't think bolt-on LS1s are 330-350whp cars?...

Get yourself a clue buddy...and maybe a life considering you have nothing better to do than troll other car forums. Can someone ban this joker?
like for instance, that he is talking about using the n/a TRD lsd which is a different ratio than the TT and auto LSD... not the sames ones everyone wants in their cars.
some people like to go faster than 158 mph in their cars....
if you are running a 700r4 with a .7:1 4th gear, regular sized wheels and tires (oversized from stock as well). and revving that 421 to max with those 4.08 gears, you won't even beat a bpu supra in a roll race lol, he will pass you up cause youll be topped out.
Last edited by kracin; Dec 23, 2011 at 06:40 PM.
First off, learn how to quote properly. It's not hard. Secondly, I own the car posted, just to clarify since you obviously missed that, genius.
I will have no problem getting $20k for this car. If you think otherwise you're an idiot, plain and simple. Going on and on with the "redneck" insults, so predictable and lame. Wouldn't expect anything else from a Supra fanboy though, they get all butthurt at the slightest things but attempt to dish it out constantly.
So the engine in the car is "worthless" yet if I put it in a heavier car it's no longer worthless?
Brilliant, just brilliant. It gets the Supra moving just fine, thanks. If you're going to be talking about a 530 HP motor as worthless then you had better be driving something making some ridiculous power or you just look like a fool. (I.E. you)And now to my favorite part...NO ONE, I MEAN NO ONE on Earth considers a turbo kit upgrade to be a bolt-on. Even Supra people use queer little terms like BPU for a bolt on car or APU (Advanced Performance Upgrades) to talk about cars with single turbo upgrades. Now, since you think you know so much about Supras, does something "advanced" (using your own groups terminology) sound like a bolt-on to you? You're just ******* retarded, plain and simple.
I guess the LS1 owners that have turbo kits on their cars refer to them as bolt-on cars, right? Just took off the stock manifolds and bolted on a few hundred HP! Yep, that Procharger just bolted right on, I must have a bolt-on car because I used bolts!
Who knew?

oh here ya go. i did it for you, didnt think your wooden computer would process it fast enough to find it while you smoked your corn cob pipe on the stoop
http://www.suprastore.com/bpuwhatdoesi.html
as for the turbo thing, once again you could bother to search and you would find that everyones definition of a bolt on will not encompass a turbo or turbo kit. not to mention a car that comes with a turbo can easily bolt on another turbo or turbo setup without changing ANYTHING but that turbo and manifold/exhaust. like the supra.
here is something
multiple sources show
Bolt-ON means without removing the engine I can unbolt a part, bolt on this part and suddenly I have more horsepower.
Truelo Intake = Bolt on.
Truelo headers = Bolt on.
Complete supercharger kit that requires nothing but removing parts and bolting on the parts = bolt on.
If it requires you to rewire the car, remove the engine,fabricate a major part is NOT bolt on.
LS1 is not bolt-on.
A cam upgrade is not bolt-on.
I take that back. a LS1 CAN be bolt on. if you buy a LS1 upgrade assembly with tranny and everything on a cradle all ready to go as well as a ECM that is tuned and setup and already wired up, that in fact would be a "bolt-on" if you could do it in your driveway in 4 hours.
too bad nobody sells that "kit"
I would say a Turbo kit would be bolt on if they included every single piece needed and there isn't internal motor work needed either, and you unbolt the old stuff, bolted on the new, put in a new PROM that came with the kit, and start it up. There you go complete bolt on. Of course those kits run extremely high prices and it's not the best idea to not beef up internals if they are known weak spots, but this is all theoretical anyway.
No welding, machining, fabricating, etc = bolt-on.
bolt on turbo kit
http://www.hksusa.com/info/?id=3503
bolt on turbos
http://www.subydriver.com/fopebotufor0.html
thats just a small portion. of course i haven't found many that will say a turbo is not bolt on... because you don't need to crack open the block or take off the head to add one, which is in bolt on territory. but others will call it a gray area because SOME cars require more work than bolt on necessary to add one on (like if it didn't come with one in the first place). but its easy to find supercharger bolt-on kits, and they require the same amount of effort to add as a turbocharger.... but wait i guess that doesn't count because the 2j doesn't use a supercharger, so only a turbo doesn't count as bolt on on a car that only requires the turbo,mani,downpipe,midpipe in order to run one right? i mean.. that sonly 1 more component than it takes to bolt on an exhaust manifold and exhaust... doesn't count because your redneck knowledge says so i get it
now come back with some kind of reply about how you have to change X amount of things on the car to swap a turbo for another so it doesn't count.. and i'll point out how long it takes someone with a newer car to actually "bolt on" an exhaust manifold and exhaust system, and we can talk about time involved.
Last edited by kracin; Dec 23, 2011 at 06:24 PM.
Guess all those cars with single turbo upgrades call themselves BPU since they're bolt-on cars since it's such a basic bolt-on upgrade right?

http://www.suprastore.com/bpuwhatdoesi.html
You see, now those are bolt-ons. Good job.
Last edited by KS-LS1; Dec 23, 2011 at 07:14 PM.
You dont judge an Auto on a roll race anyways..that 700R4, if it holds up, will run the 1/4 better than a roll race.
I have a MVB TH350 in my setup that I'll dominate over a decently modded Poopra with no problem in the 1/4..and that's only a 3spd..

And if ya want to bring it to the highway my T56 setup will dominate too.
I can swap back n forth from Auto to T56 in under 4 hours..and it's a bolt-in/bolt-out setup too..get you some of that.








