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Coyotah vs ls
Whats up tech@ws6. Welcome to the **** storm. Lol.
Get good laughs at hihos comments. "well but but my furd is faster than everyone with an OE blower" Lol. Yea well just remember no one in here has a termi swapped fox either. What a *** post from you. Lol.
You so dumb hiho. Guess what more tq & more rpm equals? More horsepower idiot. So as you only believe in tq. Rpm must mean nothing to you as you don't believe in horsepower. If you speak of rpm, with tq, you are speaking of horsepower tard. Duh duh
So if your tq is not calculated. Is it NM or LB/FT? Cause one shows different numbers than the other. Since you must know which one is real & which calculated. Or just tighten the bolt to just before it snaps is your real measurement. Lol.
Get good laughs at hihos comments. "well but but my furd is faster than everyone with an OE blower" Lol. Yea well just remember no one in here has a termi swapped fox either. What a *** post from you. Lol.
You so dumb hiho. Guess what more tq & more rpm equals? More horsepower idiot. So as you only believe in tq. Rpm must mean nothing to you as you don't believe in horsepower. If you speak of rpm, with tq, you are speaking of horsepower tard. Duh duh
So if your tq is not calculated. Is it NM or LB/FT? Cause one shows different numbers than the other. Since you must know which one is real & which calculated. Or just tighten the bolt to just before it snaps is your real measurement. Lol.
Since torque is force x distance then both measurements are right, one is The English/std/sae system and the other is metric.
Perhaps you meant kw/h vs ft/lbs? Because that would be metric power(horsepower) vs english torque.
And MAC you are trying to paint with too broad a brush. If you did elude to what i said then you contradicted yourself with your other post because i didnt agree with what you said and you were misquoting/paraphrasing me on my rpm = hp theory. I said on that same engine.
You think if the coyote spun 8k (guessing)with no belt slip or chain breakage it would make more hp than the lsx would have with no belt slip or head gasket failure at...7k? 7200? 7400? We dont know what either engine was truly capable of and likely wont because now they are going back and changing them up. Thats how it works of course but it ruins the continuity of the build then. Its all theory and unicorns until its actually proven, which likely wont happen.
No one wants to take me up on my offer though? Dont tell me i spent hours during insomnia time tracking down the perfect program for a set of 862 heads to make them within a few percent of the stock coyote heads and all the cr bore/stroke etc for nothing.
Find a stock coyote ill build this 312 to the same cr, close bore (3.898) and stroke (3.268), and cylinder head flow and see what happens. And that's on a real budget. Not 15k.
Perhaps you meant kw/h vs ft/lbs? Because that would be metric power(horsepower) vs english torque.
And MAC you are trying to paint with too broad a brush. If you did elude to what i said then you contradicted yourself with your other post because i didnt agree with what you said and you were misquoting/paraphrasing me on my rpm = hp theory. I said on that same engine.
You think if the coyote spun 8k (guessing)with no belt slip or chain breakage it would make more hp than the lsx would have with no belt slip or head gasket failure at...7k? 7200? 7400? We dont know what either engine was truly capable of and likely wont because now they are going back and changing them up. Thats how it works of course but it ruins the continuity of the build then. Its all theory and unicorns until its actually proven, which likely wont happen.
No one wants to take me up on my offer though? Dont tell me i spent hours during insomnia time tracking down the perfect program for a set of 862 heads to make them within a few percent of the stock coyote heads and all the cr bore/stroke etc for nothing.
Find a stock coyote ill build this 312 to the same cr, close bore (3.898) and stroke (3.268), and cylinder head flow and see what happens. And that's on a real budget. Not 15k.
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From: Crossfield, AB
...I understand it perfectly. Im not the one trying to skew the results by running the engines at different atmospheres. He is.....and you're stupid enough to buy into it.
Btw i did a little rough math on the tq per/L because hp/L simply makes no ******* sense since hp is just a calculation. The ls came in at about 200tq/L.....the coyote 160tq/L
Btw i did a little rough math on the tq per/L because hp/L simply makes no ******* sense since hp is just a calculation. The ls came in at about 200tq/L.....the coyote 160tq/L
PS. Didn't take you long to ricer math stuff. Results are expected. LOL
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From: Winchester, VA
Whats up tech@ws6. Welcome to the **** storm. Lol.
Get good laughs at hihos comments. "well but but my furd is faster than everyone with an OE blower" Lol. Yea well just remember no one in here has a termi swapped fox either. What a *** post from you. Lol.
You so dumb hiho. Guess what more tq & more rpm equals? More horsepower idiot. So as you only believe in tq. Rpm must mean nothing to you as you don't believe in horsepower. If you speak of rpm, with tq, you are speaking of horsepower tard. Duh duh
So if your tq is not calculated. Is it NM or LB/FT? Cause one shows different numbers than the other. Since you must know which one is real & which calculated. Or just tighten the bolt to just before it snaps is your real measurement. Lol.
Get good laughs at hihos comments. "well but but my furd is faster than everyone with an OE blower" Lol. Yea well just remember no one in here has a termi swapped fox either. What a *** post from you. Lol.
You so dumb hiho. Guess what more tq & more rpm equals? More horsepower idiot. So as you only believe in tq. Rpm must mean nothing to you as you don't believe in horsepower. If you speak of rpm, with tq, you are speaking of horsepower tard. Duh duh
So if your tq is not calculated. Is it NM or LB/FT? Cause one shows different numbers than the other. Since you must know which one is real & which calculated. Or just tighten the bolt to just before it snaps is your real measurement. Lol.
The coyotah got flat obliterated. Like to the point it wasn't even a competition.
Zoolander......the only 2 points the coyotah got in this competition was from ricer math bbbbbaaahhhhahahaaahhwwwahha
You not only shoved a foot in your mouth on that comment you swallowed the whole leg and have the nut sack resting on yo face
Since torque is force x distance then both measurements are right, one is The English/std/sae system and the other is metric.
Perhaps you meant kw/h vs ft/lbs? Because that would be metric power(horsepower) vs english torque.
And MAC you are trying to paint with too broad a brush. If you did elude to what i said then you contradicted yourself with your other post because i didnt agree with what you said and you were misquoting/paraphrasing me on my rpm = hp theory. I said on that same engine.
You think if the coyote spun 8k (guessing)with no belt slip or chain breakage it would make more hp than the lsx would have with no belt slip or head gasket failure at...7k? 7200? 7400? We dont know what either engine was truly capable of and likely wont because now they are going back and changing them up. Thats how it works of course but it ruins the continuity of the build then. Its all theory and unicorns until its actually proven, which likely wont happen.
No one wants to take me up on my offer though? Dont tell me i spent hours during insomnia time tracking down the perfect program for a set of 862 heads to make them within a few percent of the stock coyote heads and all the cr bore/stroke etc for nothing.
Find a stock coyote ill build this 312 to the same cr, close bore (3.898) and stroke (3.268), and cylinder head flow and see what happens. And that's on a real budget. Not 15k.
Perhaps you meant kw/h vs ft/lbs? Because that would be metric power(horsepower) vs english torque.
And MAC you are trying to paint with too broad a brush. If you did elude to what i said then you contradicted yourself with your other post because i didnt agree with what you said and you were misquoting/paraphrasing me on my rpm = hp theory. I said on that same engine.
You think if the coyote spun 8k (guessing)with no belt slip or chain breakage it would make more hp than the lsx would have with no belt slip or head gasket failure at...7k? 7200? 7400? We dont know what either engine was truly capable of and likely wont because now they are going back and changing them up. Thats how it works of course but it ruins the continuity of the build then. Its all theory and unicorns until its actually proven, which likely wont happen.
No one wants to take me up on my offer though? Dont tell me i spent hours during insomnia time tracking down the perfect program for a set of 862 heads to make them within a few percent of the stock coyote heads and all the cr bore/stroke etc for nothing.
Find a stock coyote ill build this 312 to the same cr, close bore (3.898) and stroke (3.268), and cylinder head flow and see what happens. And that's on a real budget. Not 15k.
I've not once contradicted myself I've stayed true to my argument. Just because other factors come into play after the main fact doesn't mean I went back on what I said. So if you take some that is known to be true then you can manipulate it to do what you want. People do this all the time with gears for trq and accerlartion. As you were speaking on the premise of a ton of factors I simply spoke on one specific premise that has to do with all engines regardless the size.
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Verdad Gallardo I appreciate what the big 3 is doing but to simply say the coyote is **** is false even this test was bogus just like the first one. Not enough money to actually build the engines correctly. All it showed was LS you can build cheaper and we all knew that already.
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From: Winchester, VA
I've not once contradicted myself I've stayed true to my argument. Just because other factors come into play after the main fact doesn't mean I went back on what I said. So if you take some that is known to be true then you can manipulate it to do what you want. People do this all the time with gears for trq and accerlartion. As you were speaking on the premise of a ton of factors I simply spoke on one specific premise that has to do with all engines regardless the size.
The furd guys love their pivot man
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From: Winchester, VA
Neither this test or the first one is bogus. They're both very legit with a budget. Idk how anyone can say neither are legit. 10k build on the na builds and 15k on the boosted builds.....pretty legit to me and a much bigger budget than I'm spending on my 5.7.
Here lets do another comparison. Cman 5br0 vs phils h/c ls3. Power wise the ls3 decimated it......and it didn't take near the budget to do it. Not like it's max effort either. How many different comparisons do you need here?
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From: Crossfield, AB
PS. That LS beat that Coyotah...it really did no matter how much you cry and stomp your feet. wow and ooops
Again saying ALL engines is painting with a broad stroke. Unicorn builds dont count.
But why would you pull an engine that high and risk chain breakage? Is the juice worth the squeeze there?
The fact that the ford guys are ignoring my basic engine challenge does say alot though. I mean its just 1960s tech. Cant hurt right? Im doing it anyway but the lack of interest from the blue oval crowd is pretty telling. Throwing insults seems to be much more interesting it seems.
But why would you pull an engine that high and risk chain breakage? Is the juice worth the squeeze there?
The fact that the ford guys are ignoring my basic engine challenge does say alot though. I mean its just 1960s tech. Cant hurt right? Im doing it anyway but the lack of interest from the blue oval crowd is pretty telling. Throwing insults seems to be much more interesting it seems.
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Joined: Aug 2002
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From: Winchester, VA
They never like any technical talk man. Thet just think the magical coyotah air pump should just out do errythang for some reason. It's been **** on hard corn twice now.
I just like breaking it off in their *** about it for the lulz.
I just like breaking it off in their *** about it for the lulz.
Again saying ALL engines is painting with a broad stroke. Unicorn builds dont count.
But why would you pull an engine that high and risk chain breakage? Is the juice worth the squeeze there?
The fact that the ford guys are ignoring my basic engine challenge does say alot though. I mean its just 1960s tech. Cant hurt right? Im doing it anyway but the lack of interest from the blue oval crowd is pretty telling. Throwing insults seems to be much more interesting it seems.
But why would you pull an engine that high and risk chain breakage? Is the juice worth the squeeze there?
The fact that the ford guys are ignoring my basic engine challenge does say alot though. I mean its just 1960s tech. Cant hurt right? Im doing it anyway but the lack of interest from the blue oval crowd is pretty telling. Throwing insults seems to be much more interesting it seems.
And yea hio loves to call names when he knows he is wrong and has 0 proof to back his claims. I'd love to see a ls engine turning 8k rpm, that's a 5.L with same bore and stroke as the coyote.