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MAN! You don't have to force things down peoples throats. If he doesn't like imports you're probably not going to convince him by being shitty in a few posts. If he doesn't like imports why the **** do you guys care? IF you think he's a twit rock on. Now we have all got up in this post to bitch and fight for no good reason. Yes, I know I am not making things any better
You drive a convertible Cobra which doesn't exactly makle you king kong either.
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Originally Posted by _Zac
Dude you drive an LT1 I'm not sure you have the clout to make fun of anything.
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Originally Posted by mahhddgtp
If by POS, you mean a motor that'll be making more power on its stock bottom end than your motor ever will.... Yes.... that POS...
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Originally Posted by _Zac
<Warning> If you own a LT1 you probably shouldn't read the following without a good sense of humor.
First off just to be clear I'm not his friend we are just allied in the fact that you are a retard. Secondly, There is a reason people hate the LT1. Let me drop you a few subtle hints. For starters it's a heavy unreliable boat anchor of a motor that long out lived it's use. Yes it has it's up sides like the fact you can run small block heads, but that doesn't help you much when you find out that the heads are so expensive you might as well of got a small block and skipped all the bs that comes with the LT1 all together. Which brings me to my main point, the OPTISPARK. I went ahead and wrote it in bold so you don't miss it like you have missed the obvious potential of the supra 2JGTE engine. What can be said about optispark that hasn't already been said about Adolph Hitler? In fact I'd venture to say it's almost as worthless as your opinion.
And? There are FASTER imports get over it...
We know we read all about the mad hp mods in your sig.
Doubtful, see the LSX motors are already going faster than the LT1 cars and with less time for R and D. Why? because no one wants to change an optispark everytime their car makes a pass.
They wouldn't be so blind with ignorance.
_Zac
First off just to be clear I'm not his friend we are just allied in the fact that you are a retard. Secondly, There is a reason people hate the LT1. Let me drop you a few subtle hints. For starters it's a heavy unreliable boat anchor of a motor that long out lived it's use. Yes it has it's up sides like the fact you can run small block heads, but that doesn't help you much when you find out that the heads are so expensive you might as well of got a small block and skipped all the bs that comes with the LT1 all together. Which brings me to my main point, the OPTISPARK. I went ahead and wrote it in bold so you don't miss it like you have missed the obvious potential of the supra 2JGTE engine. What can be said about optispark that hasn't already been said about Adolph Hitler? In fact I'd venture to say it's almost as worthless as your opinion.
And? There are FASTER imports get over it...
We know we read all about the mad hp mods in your sig.
Doubtful, see the LSX motors are already going faster than the LT1 cars and with less time for R and D. Why? because no one wants to change an optispark everytime their car makes a pass.
They wouldn't be so blind with ignorance.
_Zac
In my opinion the problem with the LT1 is that people gave up on it/never REALLY worked it out. It was introduced in what? '92 or '93 and was done by '97? That's too short a lifespan for the aftermarket to really work it out. It's not that different from a GENI SBC which last time I checked has won more races than any other engine IN THE WORLD.
That being said I prefer the LS1 mostly for ease of modification.
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In summary:
FD RX7+GENIII/IV = Very Cool.
Rotaries sound like ****.
I think the original I6 into a 'stang comment was about a RB26 put into a mustang for F&F Tokyo Drift.
Rotaries sound like ****.
People who don't know engines automatically assume the LT1 is garbage
Yes, I know I made multiple posts to get my point across.I did this because I am lazy.
'03/'04 Cobras are in my opinion "The American Supra".They can make 600whp and run high 11's or 800whp and run mid 11's.
and finally: rotaries sound like ****.
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FD RX7+GENIII/IV = Very Cool.
Rotaries sound like ****.
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I think the original I6 into a 'stang comment was about a RB26 put into a mustang for F&F Tokyo Drift.
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Rotaries sound like ****.
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People who don't know engines automatically assume the LT1 is garbage
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Yes, I know I made multiple posts to get my point across.I did this because I am lazy.
'03/'04 Cobras are in my opinion "The American Supra".They can make 600whp and run high 11's or 800whp and run mid 11's.
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and finally: rotaries sound like ****.
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Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Cheatin' Chad
The stock bottom end of a Toyota inline 6 is stout but a built LT1 COULD handle upwards of 1,000hp if built properly.Before you speak it's innards are very similar to a GENI SBC which anyone that reads a car mag has seen done.Hell John Meaney daily drives a 'Vette with a 1,000+HP SBC. The 2jz stock bottom end isn't that tough.
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Originally Posted by Cheatin' Chad
In summary:
People who work on engines automatically assume the LT1 is garbage
'03/'04 Cobras are in my opinion "The American Supra".They can make 600whp and run high 10s on drag radials or 800whp and run mid 9's.
and finally: rotaries sound like ****.
Thanks!
People who work on engines automatically assume the LT1 is garbage
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'03/'04 Cobras are in my opinion "The American Supra".They can make 600whp and run high 10s on drag radials or 800whp and run mid 9's.
![Bang Head](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_banghead.gif)
and finally: rotaries sound like ****.
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Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Cheatin' Chad
MAN! You don't have to force things down peoples throats. If he doesn't like imports you're probably not going to convince him by being shitty in a few posts. If he doesn't like imports why the **** do you guys care? IF you think he's a twit rock on. Now we have all got up in this post to bitch and fight for no good reason. Yes, I know I am not making things any better
You drive a convertible Cobra which doesn't exactly makle you king kong either.
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You drive a convertible Cobra which doesn't exactly makle you king kong either.
PS chad what do YOU drive?
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Cheatin chad: 11.7 @ 116..
That my friends is cookin..
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That my friends is cookin..
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Originally Posted by _Zac
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=432601
Cheatin chad: 11.7 @ 116..
That my friends is cookin..
Cheatin chad: 11.7 @ 116..
That my friends is cookin..
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I don't know I've never seen an 11 second Lt1...
Seriously..
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Originally Posted by _Zac
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http://chronictel.net/videos/misc/visionboy/night.wmv
I don't know I've never seen an 11 second Lt1...
Seriously..
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Originally Posted by _Zac
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http://chronictel.net/videos/misc/visionboy/night.wmv
I don't know I've never seen an 11 second Lt1...
Seriously..
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Originally Posted by Cheatin' Chad
The stock bottom end of a Toyota inline 6 is stout but a built LT1 COULD handle upwards of 1,000hp if built properly.Before you speak it's innards are very similar to a GENI SBC which anyone that reads a car mag has seen done.Hell John Meaney daily drives a 'Vette with a 1,000+HP SBC. The 2jz stock bottom end isn't that tough.
the lt1 internals ARE the same as the Gen i SBC. as evident by the fact that the 92 25th Anniv. Edition RS Camaro was going to have a built 350 Gen 1 SBC with lt1 internals straight from GM.
the bottom end record for a 2jz i believe is over 1200rwhp. the record for the fastest STREET DRIVEN supra is in the 8s at i *THINK* 170mph. BTW that was done on a completely stock getrag 6 speed manual and completely stock TT supra rear end. something NO 82+ fbody has ever done nor will ever do.
do fbodies suck? nope, ive loved all the ones ive owned and love my current 94 Z28 (that i will NOT be putting an LT1 into, cuz i actually want to go fast). However, i do realise that in every possible way (except for price for initial purchase) the MKIV supra is better.
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Originally Posted by Beaflag VonRathburg
First off I'll say your car is faster than mine, but you talk a lot of **** for someone who lost every single race in the video you posted trying to make your car look fast.
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The silver Cobra is a stroker car and he got the move every run cause he had no horn to honk. Besides that I'd say I only really lost one race that whole night and that was to the red single turbo car that got a car and the move and shut down at 130. Race was over I couldn't catch him.
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Other then that I guess you and I are watching two different videos..
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Originally Posted by 1bdbrd
Johns car displaces 427 cubic inches. a 2jz displaces less than 300 cubic inches. a 2jz has internals that will support an easy 700-1000rwhp. some choose to upgrade some do not. a close personal friend of mine has a single turbo supra that has ran 10.04@140mph in COMPLETE street form EXACTLY as he drove it almost every day. to my knowledge a full weight (supra is full weight PLUS a nice stereo in the back) lt1 camaro (which BTW has a bigger engine, better drag racing suspension AND weighs less by a couple hundred pounds) has NEVER done that.
the lt1 internals ARE the same as the Gen i SBC. as evident by the fact that the 92 25th Anniv. Edition RS Camaro was going to have a built 350 Gen 1 SBC with lt1 internals straight from GM.
the bottom end record for a 2jz i believe is over 1200rwhp. the record for the fastest STREET DRIVEN supra is in the 8s at i *THINK* 170mph. BTW that was done on a completely stock getrag 6 speed manual and completely stock TT supra rear end. something NO 82+ fbody has ever done nor will ever do.
do fbodies suck? nope, ive loved all the ones ive owned and love my current 94 Z28 (that i will NOT be putting an LT1 into, cuz i actually want to go fast). However, i do realise that in every possible way (except for price for initial purchase) the MKIV supra is better.
the lt1 internals ARE the same as the Gen i SBC. as evident by the fact that the 92 25th Anniv. Edition RS Camaro was going to have a built 350 Gen 1 SBC with lt1 internals straight from GM.
the bottom end record for a 2jz i believe is over 1200rwhp. the record for the fastest STREET DRIVEN supra is in the 8s at i *THINK* 170mph. BTW that was done on a completely stock getrag 6 speed manual and completely stock TT supra rear end. something NO 82+ fbody has ever done nor will ever do.
do fbodies suck? nope, ive loved all the ones ive owned and love my current 94 Z28 (that i will NOT be putting an LT1 into, cuz i actually want to go fast). However, i do realise that in every possible way (except for price for initial purchase) the MKIV supra is better.
Your right that an LT1 wont handle half the power capabilities as the 2JZ engines we see on the internet and on dyno pulls.
But who cares? Stock cars are for dirt track racing.
"Stock" is just a good place to start.
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Originally Posted by _Zac
Did you miss the sense of humor part, or do you just not have one to utilize in a situation like this?
PS chad what do YOU drive?
PS chad what do YOU drive?
I did have a 1998 Trans Am
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That will run 11s too
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Originally Posted by 1bdbrd
Johns car displaces 427 cubic inches. a 2jz displaces less than 300 cubic inches. a 2jz has internals that will support an easy 700-1000rwhp. some choose to upgrade some do not. a close personal friend of mine has a single turbo supra that has ran 10.04@140mph in COMPLETE street form EXACTLY as he drove it almost every day. to my knowledge a full weight (supra is full weight PLUS a nice stereo in the back) lt1 camaro (which BTW has a bigger engine, better drag racing suspension AND weighs less by a couple hundred pounds) has NEVER done that.
the lt1 internals ARE the same as the Gen i SBC. as evident by the fact that the 92 25th Anniv. Edition RS Camaro was going to have a built 350 Gen 1 SBC with lt1 internals straight from GM.
the bottom end record for a 2jz i believe is over 1200rwhp. the record for the fastest STREET DRIVEN supra is in the 8s at i *THINK* 170mph. BTW that was done on a completely stock getrag 6 speed manual and completely stock TT supra rear end. something NO 82+ fbody has ever done nor will ever do.
do fbodies suck? nope, ive loved all the ones ive owned and love my current 94 Z28 (that i will NOT be putting an LT1 into, cuz i actually want to go fast). However, i do realise that in every possible way (except for price for initial purchase) the MKIV supra is better.
the lt1 internals ARE the same as the Gen i SBC. as evident by the fact that the 92 25th Anniv. Edition RS Camaro was going to have a built 350 Gen 1 SBC with lt1 internals straight from GM.
the bottom end record for a 2jz i believe is over 1200rwhp. the record for the fastest STREET DRIVEN supra is in the 8s at i *THINK* 170mph. BTW that was done on a completely stock getrag 6 speed manual and completely stock TT supra rear end. something NO 82+ fbody has ever done nor will ever do.
do fbodies suck? nope, ive loved all the ones ive owned and love my current 94 Z28 (that i will NOT be putting an LT1 into, cuz i actually want to go fast). However, i do realise that in every possible way (except for price for initial purchase) the MKIV supra is better.
Marco (white supra) ran mid 8's at my home track last year. He was definitely NOT using a 6speed when he did this. Who ran 8's with a STOCK getrag 6speed?! I find a stock getrag handling that power in a heavy *** Supra hard to believe. If you prove it I'd be impressed.
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Originally Posted by _Zac
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Cheatin chad: 11.7 @ 116..
That my friends is cookin..
Cheatin chad: 11.7 @ 116..
That my friends is cookin..
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The ones that have rolled out onto the street in Chicago when I was there were afraid to race a 5500lb truck on 22's that I built. Actually, that truck whacked an '03 Cobra that was boosted up and on the gun.The few Cobra's I tried to race with my T/A either flat-out wouldn't race me or begged for 6+ spots.
Since I am no longer street racing that car I'll say:That car was used for street racing. If people go on the internet and see that you only run an 11.7 they tend to think they can win.
The reality is you can knock more than half a second off that time and you'd be closer to what I really did.