Thought I bought a WS6
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Thought I bought a WS6
Ok here's the deal, through a little trading I came across this 2000 Pontiac Trans Am WS6 (?) 6 speed car. 107k miles. I drove down south to get it, so it's extremely clean inside and out. I had just about 4grand in the car I traded for it, so I have about 4grand in it. Since I'm a newb to these cars I wasn't exactly sure what to look for to make sure I was getting what I wanted. Well turns out there are no WS6 rpo codes on the car anywhere and it has the 16" chrome rims on it. It does have a factory WS6 hood and a performance badge on the dash. Whoever painted the bird on the hood painted the WS6 logo on the back too. Fake WS6? Still a good buy?
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If there is no WS6 RPO code, then its not a WS6. You could always try running the vin through a decoder. If you don't know how, PM me your VIN and i'll PM you the results.
Still sounds like you got a good deal tho.
Still sounds like you got a good deal tho.
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So you traded a car worth 4 grand for a fairly close replica of a WS6 with that many miles? Hmm well look at it like this..
If you priced a firebird with that many miles with that same ls1 engine you'd probably be paying somewhere around 3-4 grand and that's without ws6 cosmetics. Also those WS6 parts or replicas get pretty pricey.
I think you may have got your money's worth & maybe it's a fairly good deal but I myself don't think I'd buy an LS1 with that many miles on it. I can only think of the abuse that car has been through.
If you priced a firebird with that many miles with that same ls1 engine you'd probably be paying somewhere around 3-4 grand and that's without ws6 cosmetics. Also those WS6 parts or replicas get pretty pricey.
I think you may have got your money's worth & maybe it's a fairly good deal but I myself don't think I'd buy an LS1 with that many miles on it. I can only think of the abuse that car has been through.
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Well the car I traded had 160k miles on it and it was a Ford, so I was pretty happy to go down in mileage. Plus its still a chevy small block, even if it was beat on it should still have a lot of life left. True WS6 hood, flow master exhaust, 3.73 gears, new clutch, short shifter??, K&N airfilter, and came with Corvette C5 wheels. Check engine light was on, just ran some good gas through it and cleaned the egr valve, that took care of that, rear end humms only when you are slightly pushing on the gas pedal, not at a coast or when you are on the gas good. Took the cover off, everything looks good and new, but I'm not a gear expert and know nothing about it. Just put some better gear oil in and a new cover w/ gasket, no more leak and noise is quieter. So no rpo code in the door either means not a WS6 or someone replace the door and kept the nice rims?
And for your pricing, I would agree with RWB, that your a little off there buddy, I would say the motor and trans are worth 3-4k. There are only a handful of these cars around me and the cheapest one is 11k with a few more miles than mine and non WS6 fake or not. Did I mention how clean my car is???!!!! I'm just looking for an actual value difference between a WS6 and a Trans Am WS6 look a like if that is what it is.
And for your pricing, I would agree with RWB, that your a little off there buddy, I would say the motor and trans are worth 3-4k. There are only a handful of these cars around me and the cheapest one is 11k with a few more miles than mine and non WS6 fake or not. Did I mention how clean my car is???!!!! I'm just looking for an actual value difference between a WS6 and a Trans Am WS6 look a like if that is what it is.
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So you traded a car worth 4 grand for a fairly close replica of a WS6 with that many miles? Hmm well look at it like this..
If you priced a firebird with that many miles with that same ls1 engine you'd probably be paying somewhere around 3-4 grand and that's without ws6 cosmetics. Also those WS6 parts or replicas get pretty pricey.
I think you may have got your money's worth & maybe it's a fairly good deal but I myself don't think I'd buy an LS1 with that many miles on it. I can only think of the abuse that car has been through.
If you priced a firebird with that many miles with that same ls1 engine you'd probably be paying somewhere around 3-4 grand and that's without ws6 cosmetics. Also those WS6 parts or replicas get pretty pricey.
I think you may have got your money's worth & maybe it's a fairly good deal but I myself don't think I'd buy an LS1 with that many miles on it. I can only think of the abuse that car has been through.
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Value wise only the purists and collectors give a crap. A Trans Am is a Trans Am, as long as you don't try to pawn it off as a true WS6 no one will care. Just bang some gears and enjoy it. BTW heres a Vin decoder http://www.compnine.com/vid.php
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I believe you are mistaken.
A 98-02 WS6 Firebird Trans Am could have the "WS6" Emblem below the passenger taillight.
To the O.P...
As was stated in a previous post, if you don't see the WS6 code on the list of RPO codes then you don't have a WS6 car.
But, also like everyone else has mentioned, it sounds like you got the car for a very reasonable price. And the fact that it already has a Ram Air Hood, painted to match, saves you the trouble of having to purchase, paint, and install one yourself. Now you can use that cash to find some sweet 17" wheels/tires of your choice and ditch the factory 16" wheels.
Congrats on owning your first LSx car.
A 98-02 WS6 Firebird Trans Am could have the "WS6" Emblem below the passenger taillight.
To the O.P...
As was stated in a previous post, if you don't see the WS6 code on the list of RPO codes then you don't have a WS6 car.
But, also like everyone else has mentioned, it sounds like you got the car for a very reasonable price. And the fact that it already has a Ram Air Hood, painted to match, saves you the trouble of having to purchase, paint, and install one yourself. Now you can use that cash to find some sweet 17" wheels/tires of your choice and ditch the factory 16" wheels.
Congrats on owning your first LSx car.
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I believe you are mistaken.
A 98-02 WS6 Firebird Trans Am could have the "WS6" Emblem below the passenger taillight.
To the O.P...
As was stated in a previous post, if you don't see the WS6 code on the list of RPO codes then you don't have a WS6 car.
But, also like everyone else has mentioned, it sounds like you got the car for a very reasonable price. And the fact that it already has a Ram Air Hood, painted to match, saves you the trouble of having to purchase, paint, and install one yourself. Now you can use that cash to find some sweet 17" wheels/tires of your choice and ditch the factory 16" wheels.
Congrats on owning your first LSx car.
A 98-02 WS6 Firebird Trans Am could have the "WS6" Emblem below the passenger taillight.
To the O.P...
As was stated in a previous post, if you don't see the WS6 code on the list of RPO codes then you don't have a WS6 car.
But, also like everyone else has mentioned, it sounds like you got the car for a very reasonable price. And the fact that it already has a Ram Air Hood, painted to match, saves you the trouble of having to purchase, paint, and install one yourself. Now you can use that cash to find some sweet 17" wheels/tires of your choice and ditch the factory 16" wheels.
Congrats on owning your first LSx car.
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Thanks for the vin decoder LS1W66.
And I'll keep the hood thanks, and I won't try to pass it off as a WS6, I'm very honest about my cars. I'll tell you everything good and bad about it. I bought this one and found out everything good and bad on my own. But I have to say for the most part I'm pretty dam happy with it. Already have a set of vette wheels for it, just need two 18" tires for them. And I'll have to take a pic of the badge on the dashboard. What no one has that or its not suppose to be there? It looks factory to me.
And I'll keep the hood thanks, and I won't try to pass it off as a WS6, I'm very honest about my cars. I'll tell you everything good and bad about it. I bought this one and found out everything good and bad on my own. But I have to say for the most part I'm pretty dam happy with it. Already have a set of vette wheels for it, just need two 18" tires for them. And I'll have to take a pic of the badge on the dashboard. What no one has that or its not suppose to be there? It looks factory to me.
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I'd say you got a pretty good deal assuming nothing major is wrong with it. $4,000 for a car that could easily sold for $8-10k is a pretty damn good deal. If you want, you can always flip the car (sell it right away for a higher price), then buy a WS6 that is in worse shape than the car you just got...
*Either way, when you mod the car, it isn't going to make a difference between the 20 horsepower a WS6 claims to gain over the regular Trans Am.
*Either way, when you mod the car, it isn't going to make a difference between the 20 horsepower a WS6 claims to gain over the regular Trans Am.
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I'm not too worried about horsepower, it's just going to be a sunny day driver. Plan on doing a few of the free mods, putting the vette wheels on this weekend and definately want the computer tuned. Won't even run it at the track. Nothing majorly wrong with the car at all really, couple little things like brakes and what not. Strong clutch, great oil pressure, pulls through all the rpm's, shifts smooth, and drives very nice. I did drive it back from down south, and that was an awesome cruise with a 6 speed. Thanks for all the feed back, it's been a real help.