BIG Decision: LS1 or LT1 ?!
09-08-2004, 12:59 PM
#121
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Gangly posted 100% no BS!! most of these LS1ers have never even owned an LT1, rode in one, worked on one etc.. dont let these guys **** on ur back and tell u its rainin.. ive owned my LT1 for 5yrs and 130k miles now, ive only had one major problem since owning it.. the opti crapped out at 119k.. no biggie, fixed it myself as well as other small problems.
let me say that my girl and i go on roadtrips like mad every single weekend, i keep puttn on the miles and it couldnt run more reliable and stronger!! but i have to admit, i would love to own an Ls1, but i would NEVER trade my Lt1 for it..
i know this has been beatn dead, hate to keep kickn a dead animal but.. my Lt1 sounds like a sum-bitch
let me say that my girl and i go on roadtrips like mad every single weekend, i keep puttn on the miles and it couldnt run more reliable and stronger!! but i have to admit, i would love to own an Ls1, but i would NEVER trade my Lt1 for it..
i know this has been beatn dead, hate to keep kickn a dead animal but.. my Lt1 sounds like a sum-bitch
09-08-2004, 01:15 PM
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I've had both. If you're going to leave it anywhere near stock, the LS1 is so much faster it's not a fair comparison.
But if you're going mod-crazy, it'll be cheaper to do an LT1. And LT1's sound so much better.
But if you're going mod-crazy, it'll be cheaper to do an LT1. And LT1's sound so much better.
09-08-2004, 01:56 PM
#124
Originally Posted by Gangly
The people speaking are LS1 owners with a few having owned an LT1 in teh past so the opinions are fairly biased, but somewhat accurate. LT1's arent the "dogs" a lot of people say they are. When the LS1 first came out in 97, I had a hard time finding one that would beat me in my 6 spd LT1 with CAI and Cutout. Every year they got faster adn faster and now they are obviusly faster out of the box, but not by 50 RWHP. My LT1 bone stock dynoed 272 RWHP and i had been beaten by many other bone stock LT1's at the time from roll ons and dead stops. Its the older motor and not as technilogically advanced as the LS1 for sure, but it still has TONS of potential and you can still get well over 400 rwhp with a heads cam setup on a LT1. Several members in the LT1 section have H/C setups with over 400 rwhp so please done let a board of LS1ers tell you the LT1 stinks without talking to the LT1ers as well. We will be the first to admit that the LS1 is a faster car from the factory, but LT1's still make incredible power and no, it doesnt take a lot of money to do it, infact most of the aftermarket parts for LT1's are CHEAPER!
Your LT1 dyned at 272 stock?! DAMN that is high. A 97-99 LS1 dynoed at about 300 in M6 form, which is easily about 50 more than my 94 which probably had about 240.
-Todd
09-08-2004, 02:13 PM
#126
Originally Posted by LT1Burnout
most of these LS1ers have never even owned an LT1, rode in one, worked on one etc..
09-08-2004, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DMNSPD
I call bs.
Anyway, with a price range up to 15k, and 98/99 T/As readily found in the 10-12k price range, it would be foolish to by the LT1 IMO.
09-08-2004, 04:44 PM
#130
Originally Posted by DMNSPD
I call bs.
1996 Dyno with a Cutout as only mod
Also... in 97 C5 dynos were in the 270 range occasionally and plenty of fbody LS1 cars dyno lower than 300... others dyno over 300. 300 might be what we accept as average on here..but it does not reflect the results of every single LS1 motor out there.
09-08-2004, 05:07 PM
#131
Originally Posted by S8ER95Z
I dont because Ive seen plenty of dynos posted on CZ28.com back in the day ranging from 250rwhp to 265rwhp..Ive also seen freak cars hit mid 13s bone stock with ~102mph. The old firehawks posted mid 13 times I believe.
1996 Dyno with a Cutout as only mod
Also... in 97 C5 dynos were in the 270 range occasionally and plenty of fbody LS1 cars dyno lower than 300... others dyno over 300. 300 might be what we accept as average on here..but it does not reflect the results of every single LS1 motor out there.
1996 Dyno with a Cutout as only mod
Also... in 97 C5 dynos were in the 270 range occasionally and plenty of fbody LS1 cars dyno lower than 300... others dyno over 300. 300 might be what we accept as average on here..but it does not reflect the results of every single LS1 motor out there.
Then you could say that most LT1's are not in the 260 range either, but I still think they rarer than the 270 horespower LS1's (M6 of course)
-Todd
09-08-2004, 05:14 PM
#132
I agree and thats not my point. The point is cars do exist outside of the "Over 300rwhp" LS1 fact that always gets thrown around. Just as LT1 cars exist that dont dyno over 250rwhp. What im trying to get acrossed is a lot of LS1 enthusiest seem to be blinded by the LS1 hype and have this extremely negative view about any other car thats not a LSX powered vehicle. Im trying to say open your eyes, a strong LT1 car could potentially beat a weaker LS1 car. Yet the general LS1 population thinks a stock LS1 car would rape any stock LT1 any day of the week.
09-08-2004, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by S8ER95Z
Im trying to say open your eyes, a strong LT1 car could potentially beat a weaker LS1 car. Yet the general LS1 population thinks a stock LS1 car would rape any stock LT1 any day of the week.
09-09-2004, 12:25 AM
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Either way, I think you would be happy with one of them. Get an LT1 and put money into it with more bang for the buck, or get an LS1 and put some money into it with decent results. I will agree, parts for an LS1 are a joke, talk about supply and demand.....
I think with what you want to do, if you can find a great deal on it, an LS1 is the way to go. Mine dyno'd 315/335 with just a Direct Flow lid. I have no headers, no cutout and no internal mods and run very low 13's all day long. I got my 01 Formula a year ago with 11K on it.
I think with what you want to do, if you can find a great deal on it, an LS1 is the way to go. Mine dyno'd 315/335 with just a Direct Flow lid. I have no headers, no cutout and no internal mods and run very low 13's all day long. I got my 01 Formula a year ago with 11K on it.
09-09-2004, 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by slammed-am
Ok... I'm gonna turn 18 in January. I am getting a T/A (See sig.)
*Money is a big factor. I want to have this thing as soon as possible (for my senior year)
I love the way T/A's look and, to be honest, that is probably the biggest seeling point of the vehicle for me. (Or at least 50%, cuz we all know what the other half is dedicated too!
) So, when it comes down to it, I guess i would be happy w/ either the LS1 or LT1. Both big V8's! 
Anyways, when i drive a fast car, my favorite part is being thrown back againt my seat at takeoff (low end tq) and i have heard the lt1 have a lot of power down low. But I am also very aware of their lower track times compared to an ls1 
My top budget range is probably around 15k (pushing it). So, i need lots of input from you guys.LS1 or LT1
Ps: I know that lots of you guys are somewhat biased toward your awesome LS1's (this being LS1 tech and all...), so please keep an open mind and consider my parameters. I have researched this, but would appreciate one on one input. Thanks in advance.
09-09-2004, 11:56 AM
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Here's my bone stock 93' Formula dyno...Not far off from Gangly's 272. So 
i think not.
http://img27.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img27...Picture710.jpg
i think not.http://img27.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img27...Picture710.jpg