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Stall Recommendation (MS4 & bolt ons)???

Old 12-26-2006, 05:41 PM
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I have a 1999 Camaro Z28 with bolt ons (MS4 cam, Pace Setter LT headers, cat-less y-pipe, Mac catback, LS6 intake, lid, K&N filter, 85mm MAF, ported TB, SLP 160 thermo & ASP pulleys). I just bought a Vigilante torque converter with a 3,200 stall. What is the optimal stall for this setup with my MS4? Thank you,
Old 12-26-2006, 07:40 PM
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If it's a DD, i'd go with 3500-3800. If it's not a DD, 4K or higher...
Old 12-27-2006, 05:46 AM
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your 3200 with a set of 3.73's should be sweet on the street/track.
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So 3.73 gears would be a good mix for the street & strip. This car will be a 90% DD. I just want to lay down a high 11 second 1/4 mile. Thank you,
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VIG underrates their stall speed a little bit so the 3200 is more like a 3500. With 3.73's it should be fine for a DD. With sticky tires, high 11's should'nt be too hard to do with that combo. If you really want to take advantage of the MS4's power curve though, get a 4000+ stall.
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4000 or higher, My friend has an MS3 and a 3500 stall and you can really feel it get into the power after 4K.
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I agree with the 4000 stall speed. Particularly if you plan on getting 3.73s. The 3.73s will considerably tighten up street feel, and help to keep a good daily driver feel. Our experiences with the ms4 cam (excellent choice btw) have shown that it really loves stall range in the 4000 + area, but with the daily driver I would stay with the 4000. Good street feel with the 3.73s and enough stall to take full advantage of the cam's powerband.

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You should post this in the Automatic forum for best results. I wouldn't make a purchase without consulting the experts there first! I mean, really. Do it and you won't regret it.
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^^^^ totally agree with Mr. Fuddle!! No lower than a 3800 stall with that cam and supporting mods.
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i have a yank 3500 and i am happy with it, but i think a 4000 will work better so i am going to go with the yank 4000. starts to pull hard at that rpm.
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My 3200 vig stalls just a little over 3500 rpms As far as street manners could not ask for a better conv. also not to shabby at the track. cut mid to low 1.60s 60 fts all the time at local tracks.
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Call Dave at Yank. Dave is the man. PY3400 ftw.
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have a canadian install it
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I would think about a 4K. But then again I have a M6. LOL. My buddy has a yark 4K. on a stock cam with 4.10's and it is pretty awsome. I could only imagine what it would do with a fat daddy cam.
BTW I'm looking at a cam size just like the MS4 with a killer set of heads to boot.
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Keep the 3200 and spray it. That'll put it in the power band for ya and make it more streetable.


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