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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 11:23 PM
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Which nitrous system do you have?

Also, with a 3600 stall you will lose quite a bit through the drivetrain. That does not account for the a/f. Have you checked flowing pressure at the rail? What is your fuel pressure rated at for the nitrous system you have?
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 12:06 AM
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What was your AFR n/a before you did the nitrous runs?
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 12:51 AM
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HSW kit, nitrous outlet 92 mm plate. Im at 58 psi at the rail, gauge sensor is connected at the rail. and as far as pressure relating to the jets?

NA AFR= 12.8-13.1

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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 06:53 PM
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Okay so without pulling the N2O bottle and weighing it is there a way to figure out how much is in the n2o bottle. I think i remember reading that with a 10lb 3000psi bottle when the nano gauge gets down to a certain psi the nitrous bottle is empty or darn near.
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by evilbeef54
Okay so without pulling the N2O bottle and weighing it is there a way to figure out how much is in the n2o bottle. I think i remember reading that with a 10lb 3000psi bottle when the nano gauge gets down to a certain psi the nitrous bottle is empty or darn near.
good Q! i would like to know
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 09:36 PM
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once i start moving again (stuck on the couch poping vicoden after surgery today) i'll go weigh the bottle and note the nano psi so we can start working on a chart unless someone else has this info already
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by evilbeef54
once i start moving again (stuck on the couch poping vicoden after surgery today) i'll go weigh the bottle and note the nano psi so we can start working on a chart unless someone else has this info already
Ill do the same when the snow melts... Mine weighs in at 32lbs with everything and a full bottle... I can tell you the weights, shot size and track runs I got, just need to wait till till the tracks open.

I know last time out I made three 1/4 mile runs on a full bottle on a 100 shot... I could go weigh it and see how much is gone and what psi (I can get mine to 4000 PSI) the NANO has in it. I will be at my storage this friday so I can do it then.
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by jetblast
is there a difference in the function of the nano when filling with nitrogen or compressed air?
Originally Posted by evilbeef54
Okay so without pulling the N2O bottle and weighing it is there a way to figure out how much is in the n2o bottle. I think i remember reading that with a 10lb 3000psi bottle when the nano gauge gets down to a certain psi the nitrous bottle is empty or darn near.
I have these two questions as well, can anyone answer this specifically? I'm seriously looking into a NANO set-up for my upcoming 2 stage kit.
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Old Jan 31, 2009 | 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by evilbeef54
Okay so without pulling the N2O bottle and weighing it is there a way to figure out how much is in the n2o bottle. I think i remember reading that with a 10lb 3000psi bottle when the nano gauge gets down to a certain psi the nitrous bottle is empty or darn near.
when my nano guage hit 1250s I know i'm out of spray
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Old Jan 31, 2009 | 11:40 PM
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well i think something failed, hopfully just the nano gauge but it is reading 2500 and only pushin out about 900-700 and i thing the n2o ran out but i'll weight it all tomorrow, i give up for now
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Old Feb 1, 2009 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by waterbug1999
I run the NANO system and had a problem with it 1st time down the track, I had the pressure go to 1400 psi before I let out of it....

We found out the regulator got damaged during fill up.. The check valve had no pressure so the surge went to the NANO and messed up the regulator.

So, I was told from NANO to disconnect the hose from now on.. Have not had a problem since. Just FYI so this wont happen to anyone else.
Did you have to replace the reg or did you just disconnect the lines and put them back after filling the nitrous bottle again?
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Old Feb 2, 2009 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by MIXEDBREED
Did you have to replace the reg or did you just disconnect the lines and put them back after filling the nitrous bottle again?
It would need to be re-regulated by NANO in house. I also sent you a pm. Let me know what i can do to help.
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Old Feb 2, 2009 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by evilbeef54
once i start moving again (stuck on the couch poping vicoden after surgery today) i'll go weigh the bottle and note the nano psi so we can start working on a chart unless someone else has this info already
Man so many guys with back problems and vicodan, me too. I have 3-bulging discs and two torn somethings on the MRI, and back to the surgeon here we go, again, lol...

Here's my current project. it's an '01 Z06 with 10lb set-up. It's current weight with everything full and mounts installed was 29lbs. The bottle full was 24lbs and 12 ounces. So the billet N2O bottle bracket, the NANO bottle and brackets, compressed air and lines adds approx 4lbs and 4ounces. Anyone have a empty NANO set-up they could weigh? (I use a bath room scale, so my weights are not perfect, lol)

Does compressed air really weigh anything, much? there must be a scientist type reading along? Actually there must be somewhere on the Internet that shows all gases, vapors, liquids and how they weigh under pressure. Interesting no doubt. Anyway, I don't think it would be anywhere close to N2O pressure/weight. You paint ball guys must know if your gun gets any heavier after a refill?


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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 10:24 AM
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Robert very clean install.

Beleive it or not when you compress air that much it does weigh something. In the 10# 4500 system you will see about 1.5#'s when full from empty. Can i get a picture of the outside of the car as well?
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 03:26 PM
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Okay, so i noticed my perfomance dropp off sharply so i checked the gauges, the NANo still said 2500 psi but the n2o output was only putting out 900 psi and right after i do i short 1/2 second purge it was down to about 700 psi and slowly came back up to 900, i pulled the n2o bottle and weighed it there was only about 2 lbs in the nitrous bottle, i'm gonna refill everything and try again, i'm just wondering why the pressure gauge on the nano was still at 2500 but the nitrous pressure was down to only 900 psi, it seemed like there was a little bit of n2o left
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Brad@NANO Direct
Robert very clean install.

Beleive it or not when you compress air that much it does weigh something. In the 10# 4500 system you will see about 1.5#'s when full from empty. Can i get a picture of the outside of the car as well?
Thanks, I will see what I can do. It's iust your average 416ci stock looking silver Z06. We will have some dyno time on it also...
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by evilbeef54
Okay, so i noticed my perfomance dropp off sharply so i checked the gauges, the NANo still said 2500 psi but the n2o output was only putting out 900 psi and right after i do i short 1/2 second purge it was down to about 700 psi and slowly came back up to 900, i pulled the n2o bottle and weighed it there was only about 2 lbs in the nitrous bottle, i'm gonna refill everything and try again, i'm just wondering why the pressure gauge on the nano was still at 2500 but the nitrous pressure was down to only 900 psi, it seemed like there was a little bit of n2o left

Just a thought... But, I had something similar like that happen to me, turns out I kinked the N20 line. So, I would purge, pressure would drop then come back up.. And when I sprayed, it would fall on its face due the N20 getting pinched/not flowing fast enough....

I took off the seat belt where it bolts to the floor board when I installed my cage.. So, while bolting it back down to the floor I pinched the N20 line.
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 01:43 AM
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hmmm, i could see that but my nitrous gauge is an inline on the output of the bottle, i could see what you are talking about but i think the gauge would have to be downstream of the pinch inorder to pick up that drop, also the resting pressure of the n2o with nano on fell and stayed to about 900 with about a pound of n2o and 2500 indicated of nano, if it was somehow related to a pinched line the pressure should have eventually risen to 1050 psi if the nano was working properly
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Originally Posted by evilbeef54
hmmm, i could see that but my nitrous gauge is an inline on the output of the bottle, i could see what you are talking about but i think the gauge would have to be downstream of the pinch inorder to pick up that drop, also the resting pressure of the n2o with nano on fell and stayed to about 900 with about a pound of n2o and 2500 indicated of nano, if it was somehow related to a pinched line the pressure should have eventually risen to 1050 psi if the nano was working properly
Did you ever diagnose your issue and get it fixed?
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Old Feb 22, 2009 | 11:06 PM
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NO i didnt i got the bottle filled and ran it last night, since they restructered my class i have to run a little slower so i wasnt making full passes on the bottle. When i first got to the track i opened the n2o and the pressure was perfect at 1050 before i opened the nano, the pressure seemed to be good all night, i only made 4 passes on the bottle, but when i checked it today the pressure was down to only 900 again with the nano on and 2500 indicated on the nano gauge, i have to go pull it all out and weight it again but it is starting to seem like the nano doesnt want to push out more than about 900 psi. I'll head out and pull the bottle in a min and let you know how much is in it.
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