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Old 12-18-2008, 07:45 PM
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Default Boredom Build what do you think is it going to melt lol.

11k Budget to build a motor and see if it can take 1000hp goals. Its a challenge from me opening my mouth saying I pref the LSx over the Rotory if I had an FD... Anyway what do you think?

I wanted to check what I am forgetting before I posted but this is what I wrote up so far for my reply to there still MIA Rotory build... (They have complained about the limits of the Stock ECU and Bad Power Curves on Juice so far as well as anything else they can try to think up, after a few links to Nicd's work and others they keep running out of idea's lol)

Thanks for any thoughts.

---How is this build for Juice? I wrote it for the other forum so ignore my sarcasm I am giving them a hard time lol---
Anyway here we go:
1) According to most the L92 CNC Head is about 580.00 through GM Depending on Dealer etc. The Modified one with Manley valves and dual extreme springs is around 870.00 Each. However right now Texas Speed is having a sale so heres what I choose:
http://www.texas-speed.com/shop/item...d=697&catid=40
PRC LS3 & L92 CNC Ported Heads
Item#:
199-62l
These are dyno proven as the page shows, and set me back 1125.00 plus the 250 valve spring upgrade. (Why not) so were at 1375 and we have the heads for our monster (I will probably be using the same heads for the FI car... why not lol)

2) Next I was drawn to these Intake Manifolds. Now the HP rating is of the amount of Juice it can handle not max HP for the Manifold... incase someone does not understand. I choose the unpainted one... yeah I am being cheap but I did go for the bottle upgrade. So I got the Nitrous Outlet 4 Solenoid as my choice. Here is the link:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/nitrous-o...-products.html
Cost with 15LB Bottle upgrade is 2460.00

3) Now lets look at blocks because this can make or break the bank. I was informed by a helpful vendor of yet another special! God this must be the time to build lol. However I have not heard back for the link to his site so I decided hell lets take a look at a few others to keep it fair like you rotory guys have :p I was lazy and just stuck with Texas Speed and threw this together:
http://texas-speed.com/shop/item.asp
Name:
402/408cid LS1/LQ9 or LSX Iron Stroker Short Block
Item#:
25-402IronSB
It costs 4298.00 and comes nicely setup.
We have the following Mods as well:
Diamond -2cc Pistons
Total Seal HD Steel Top Ring Set
Callies 6.125" LS1 Compstar Rods (Following the advice of another on this change from the Scat ones)
Callies Dragonslayer Crankshaft
ARP Main Stud Kit
GM LQ9 6.0L Longblock
This is a Stroker Block if you did not catch that. So now we have the Manifold, Built Bottom End and Nice Heads and still over 2000.00 left not to bad yet.

4) A set of headers of course then some other fun stuff. I just choose the Texas Speed set, there are cheaper but I got the rest from here why not again.
With the gaskets and bolts we got the O2 Extensions for good Measure lol. So 543 for that.
http://texas-speed.com/shop/item.asp
Name:
ALL NEW Texas Speed 1 7/8" Long Tube Headers
Item#:
25-178LT
Straight forward there.

5) I am working on the link for TB's thats another vendor or a pick up from the Classifieds so we will go with the High price of 350.00
PTM 92mm TB=$350
NM Found it on Texas Speed for the same price I said so here is the item number and a link as always.
http://texas-speed.com/shop/item.asp?itemid=891
Name:
P.T.M. 92mm Throttle Body
Item#:
25-PTM92

6) For our O2 Readings again FAST seems the way to keep going so why not. Dual O2's in a kit that has things I could probably get cheaper but again links are what makes it all work. Cost is $440.00
http://texas-speed.com/shop/item.asp
Name:
F.A.S.T. Air/Fuel Meter
Item#:
111-170401

7) Next our fuel lets say 60LB/h High Impedance Injectors how that? I am working on a link give me some time here. We have 480.00 for them unless you go to eBay if you want cheaper (Which goes for all this but I stayed away from that just for the fun of overspending why not lol, playing around is fun!)
I have the FAST Part number I will provide a vendor shortly but again looking through the FS Section I am sure we could do even cheaper. (Not to mention I saw a few Stroker Motors in there lol)

8) Oh because I was not sure it was included lets add this oil pump, I believe this is the right one otherwise screw it the Mahelli is not to much more and we have some cash still lol.
150.00 for this one.
http://texas-speed.com/shop/item.asp...d=151&catid=55
Name:
TSP Ported LS6 Oil Pump
Item#:
25-12586665M

So we have over 800.00 left.
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Going to need half inch head studs to spray that much. Add machine work costs to your heads and block for those. Probably going to want to upgrade to tool steel pins for your pistons and connecting rods so they hold together. Throw in a progressive controller so that it doesn't blow things apart when you spray that much. That $800 supposed extra will be more than taken up making things hold together and for the small parts that you forget and will take more than that.
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I was thinking no more then a 400 shot max to get to those goals probably possible with a 300 shot guess I need to push it further lol.
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Are you talking rear wheel or flywheel power level?
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flywheel sorry I should have said that. Motor Dyno only it turned into a Motor thing only :p
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300-400 is still a heavy shot. You're still going to need everything I said to hold it together, but could probably skip the tool steel pins and use some free hoping and praying to keep the cost a little lower.
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Nah I don't mind changing from a stroker or switching other things around hints why I asked, I threw something together and sought those who had more experiance for some additional info basically so thanks.

Anything else I should look into?
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instead of the larger head studs, you can use L19 material head studs, thats what i did, but i didnt spray my car yet so i couldnt tell you how good they are
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I don't see anything about a cam in there. Figure another $500 or so for the custom grind. Also, you aren't gonna fuel 1000hp with a 255.
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Originally Posted by jmill96Z
I don't see anything about a cam in there. Figure another $500 or so for the custom grind. Also, you aren't gonna fuel 1000hp with a 255.
Your going to either need a standalone setup, OR Dual 255's as a baseline. That should get you close...
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No lifters or pushrods on there either. This **** will nickle and dime you to death.
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That intake won't work with those heads...
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I did click the wrong link huh lol. And fuel system is not in the build just motor its one of those for funs as I said.

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HAHA it looks like you liked my idea in the other thread
btw I said the fiber tuned into since IIRC it will work with L92's
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Post #10

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...t-outcome.html
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ya, everything adds up to be a lot.

all the little **** adds up to a couple grand in its own that you really dont think aout
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Originally Posted by RedTtop6spd
Going to need half inch head studs to spray that much. Add machine work costs to your heads and block for those. Probably going to want to upgrade to tool steel pins for your pistons and connecting rods so they hold together. Throw in a progressive controller so that it doesn't blow things apart when you spray that much. That $800 supposed extra will be more than taken up making things hold together and for the small parts that you forget and will take more than that.

I dont have 1/2 studs and have not had a head gasket issue to date.
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Originally Posted by ATVracr
I dont have 1/2 studs and have not had a head gasket issue to date.
how much you spraying?
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350-400

I have ARP2000 studs, stock size.




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