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Old 11-24-2009, 10:37 PM
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Would you by chance have dyno graphs? With spray if you had it. Thanks man that would help me see what your talking about. I get it and all but seeing a graph helps it sink in lol.
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Originally Posted by Zman98
Would you by chance have dyno graphs? With spray if you had it. Thanks man that would help me see what your talking about. I get it and all but seeing a graph helps it sink in lol.
I dont have any spray on my car yet (going on this winter) and The only Dyno graph I have is with 3.42's. I havent dynoed it yet with the 4.10's.

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Thats not to bad. Seems a little peaky but not as much as I was expecting. What kind of mileage do you get after the cam? Not that its that important but just curious lol.
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Looks alot peaky to me.

Makes 200hp at 3500rpm
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Not as much as I was expecting. Looks to be a good cam but not the curve I was looking for. Thanks for the post and graph man. I appreciate it.
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Originally Posted by FiFdYnUtz
it would be different if they didnt think they were gods gift to tech and took what i said as a decent response to this thread, but they decided to do nothing but bash and talk down instead of productively helping the OP like the thread was meant to be....thats great that they are the big nitrous dogs, but they act like a high school kid with a 5-spd honda..
You were the first to start out on the attack. you just ran out of ammo. BTW notice the peaky dyno graph posted. kinda what i was aying. for a street driven car thats not what you want....

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Originally Posted by kidcamaro98
everyone thats knocking about the MS3 power band either Dont have the cam and are going by what people say or have never ridden in/driven/owned a MS3 car with the RIGHT gearing.

I will admit right now, with the stock 3.42's, The power band was high. It pulled like a bat out of hell between 4-6800rpms. This didnt bother me, because when your racing you should never be below 3800rpms to begin with!

Then I added 4.10's to my setup and Holy **** did it really wake up the power band. The power is alot smoother, and It pulls the same from 3500rpms-6800rpms....all the way through the power band and the car can launch like a mother. It blows the tires off from a 50 roll to the point it gets squirly and I need to lift.

It all comes down to what setup your planning with...and by setup I mean what gears and what not.

I know theres no way to say this and not upset people but any way....

1. Everyone's cam in there car is the best... See the ms3 guys in here saying its the best...

2. Most guys only ever put 1 cam in or if there was 2 the first was a baby cam and the 2nd was 15 degrees bigger on both ends. so there knowledge is limited but again there cam is the best.

3. Most guys don't under stand there is no perfect shelf cam. each combo /owner wants/needs something different. So for guys with ported heads or fast 90's or 5000 stalls to tell a small bolt on guy with stock intake he needs the same cam they have is ubserd!

4. This is not a slight on the MS3 its a good cam for the right combo. But 95% of guys on here just know numbers at .05 and have no idea what lsa or lift or advance does. Its fine there are cam experts that do this for a living and can help you get the right cam. And if you do enough reading you will start to see a trend.

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Originally Posted by FiFdYnUtz
lol you guys seriously think a mid size cam, full weight, stock rear/gear, bolt ons, and STOCK ls6 heads with 150 is a 9.90 car?!? my car had stock wheels all around with bfg rears on my run too, completely stock inside and out, i'll gurantee your guys' 10 sec cam only cars are stripped out big and little'd DRAG CARS....lets compare apples to apples please...and for the record, just because my car isnt the fastest **** around (i dont want it to be because i still race on the street 10's is plenty) doesnt mean i dont have experience with fast cars, i have a friend with a 402 ls2 with stock l92 heads running 9.50's another H/C ls1 with 150 running 10.00's and a guy who just got his TSP lsx 427 300 shot dp fast 90/90 8.80 car..
I bet it's possible to go 9s with what you listed in the right air.

And your car is a dog. It's not fast at all for what it is and 'because you race on the street' isn't really an excuse.

But on the other hand I know what it's like to commit to an argument even thought you've been proven wrong time and time again. I do it all the time on here. So more power to you on that part.
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Don't worry man after reading all this filthy nuts will be on here with a new user name asking what cam would be good for his setup soon. Lol
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damn you guys are just way too good for me and my car is is a dog...
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lol thats funny. I cant believe I had so many responses to my thread. Thought it would have maybe ten before ppl stopped looking at it. I feel special now lol HAHA
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Originally Posted by FiFdYnUtz
lol you guys seriously think a mid size cam, full weight, stock rear/gear, bolt ons, and STOCK ls6 heads with 150 is a 9.90 car?!? my car had stock wheels all around with bfg rears on my run too, completely stock inside and out, i'll gurantee your guys' 10 sec cam only cars are stripped out big and little'd DRAG CARS....lets compare apples to apples please...and for the record, just because my car isnt the fastest **** around (i dont want it to be because i still race on the street 10's is plenty) doesnt mean i dont have experience with fast cars, i have a friend with a 402 ls2 with stock l92 heads running 9.50's another H/C ls1 with 150 running 10.00's and a guy who just got his TSP lsx 427 300 shot dp fast 90/90 8.80 car..
You know what is really funnie about this is i ran 10.88 at 127mph with my cam only LS6 in my 3475lbs M6 camaro with out spray and know i am going hunting for 9's with spray so it can be done as my dad always told Son give your ******* ear's a chance. A little less mouth and More open ears and you will learn a thing or two.
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As for a cam i say G5x4 , Ms3 , or Vindicator i will let you all know how well the vindicator and spary work next year with my Setup it will still Be a stock LS6 with a vindicator and bolt on's with a m6 or auto trans trying to sell my m6 to go auto.

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Originally Posted by 98blueSScamaro
i ran 10.88 at 127mph with my cam only LS6 in my 3475lbs M6 camaro with out spray

as my dad always told Son give your ******* ear's a chance. A little less mouth and More open ears and you will learn a thing or two.
Thats a good running car !

Your pops is a smart man.
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Hell yeah thats a goodrunning car. Cam only in the 10s? Wow is all I can say to that. Makes me wonder what other mods are included with it lol.
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Originally Posted by Zman98
Hell yeah thats a goodrunning car. Cam only in the 10s? Wow is all I can say to that. Makes me wonder what other mods are included with it lol.
no need to wonder here you go


https://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-raci...bout-time.html

And yes my dad is a smart man but it took years to get that smart and thanx guys
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Why thank you kind sir lol. Impressive car. Hat tipped to you.
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I have sprayed my Trex cam only full weight street car into the 10's for 5 years and it's ground on a 109.9 lsa. Still running going in my 66' chevelle! That being said if i had it all over i would have went with a smaller cam on a 114lsa like my buddies did and went low 10's on juice and had a better streetcar.
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Originally Posted by ShiznityZ28
Kinda why i put the numbers i did. The MS3 might make great peak numbers. but in a true street car you need a broad flat tq curve. on stock heads with an ls6 you need the power low in the range. But what do i know.....
Originally Posted by Zman98
I might look into a custom grind when it comes time. Mainly just looking to see what has worked well for others on here. Nothing said in here will make my mind say well, thats the only choice I got... Just looking to see other angles on the topic. Thanks.
i could not agree more with shiznity.... i have a 3900lbs car and went 12.2 n/a {not great} and 10.99 with a 150w, stock supension and wheels with hoosier 275/17/45. my car is far from a dd, but i do ride it a lot. i have 84kmi and have had the h/c since 9kmi with no valvetrain issues and lots of burnouts and 1/4 miles passes [over 260]. but with a cam only dd goal, i would certainly listen and research the smart guys here and take their advice.
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Originally Posted by 98blueSScamaro
You know what is really funnie about this is i ran 10.88 at 127mph with my cam only LS6 in my 3475lbs M6 camaro with out spray and know i am going hunting for 9's with spray so it can be done as my dad always told Son give your ******* ear's a chance. A little less mouth and More open ears and you will learn a thing or two.
straight junk

Rob, i need to get a cool sig like you mine is weak still

my turd has some weight pulled but she gets the job done, **** round trip to the track is 150 mile +

Cant wait to see how she responds to the jug...making me jelious


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