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Old 04-11-2012, 12:27 AM
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So today I finally installed my nitrous kit, got everything going and working good. The first time i went to spray it today i wasn't very satisfied, although in second it did spin like crazy. It does hit hard and the tone of the motor definitely changes, but it seemed like i was expecting more from the 100 shot? Any inputs from anybody?

Running BR6EF plugs and pulled 4 degrees of timing from my current tune.
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LOL read through my thread that sounds alot like your situation.

What is your bottle presure at?

https://ls1tech.com/forums/nitrous-o...impressed.html
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I read your whole thread earlier haha, i tried to watch your videos but they were on private. Bottle pressure was pretty high, it was around 1000psi. Not too impressed with it lol. maybe it was just me?
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Originally Posted by bongva
So today I finally installed my nitrous kit, got everything going and working good. The first time i went to spray it today i wasn't very satisfied, although in second it did spin like crazy. It does hit hard and the tone of the motor definitely changes, but it seemed like i was expecting more from the 100 shot? Any inputs from anybody?

Running BR6EF plugs and pulled 4 degrees of timing from my current tune.
Even a 50 shot can be fun. You might want to describe your setup.
One problem with Nitrous is it does hit hard and fast, thus if you lose traction, you don't get to enjoy the gains. Use a bottle heater, NANO?
Plug gap?
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You've probably watched too much fast and furious. Just cause it doesnt "feel" that fast doesnt mean it isnt.
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Originally Posted by itsslow98
You've probably watched too much fast and furious. Just cause it doesnt "feel" that fast doesnt mean it isnt.
lol i was thinking the same thing. A 100 shot is pretty mild, you done get that star wars warp speed blast until you get a 200+ shot.
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Give some more information on the set up. Bottle pressure, plug gap, mods to car.

It might be that you were expecting more on a 100 shot but could also be something small that if keeping you from making full potential from the 100 shot.

Also you might but some sticky tires on and feel it in lower gears. That is when you really notice the power increase.
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Originally Posted by itsslow98
You've probably watched too much fast and furious. Just cause it doesnt "feel" that fast doesnt mean it isnt.
This was half of my problem^ Not actually watching fast and the furious, but I was expecting ALOT from it. After I increased my bottle presure it felt alot faster and I ended up racing a car that used to pull me and after spraying i put about 10 car lengths on him so I knew it was working lol.
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Originally Posted by itsslow98
You've probably watched too much fast and furious. Just cause it doesnt "feel" that fast doesnt mean it isnt.
LOL I think you're right.

Mods on car: lid, longtubes, 3in exhaust dumped in the rear, ls6 intake, 85mm throttle body, previously tuned on motor. made 356hp/368tq i pulled 4 degrees of timing from my motor map, but i need to pull more because i was getting kr in 3rd gear, never hit 4th.
running br6ef plugs at a .035 gap
bottle pressure was at about 1000psi
NOS Wet kit, single fogger on the intake piping after iat and about 4 inches away from the throttle body.

gonna put my dr's on today and see what it feels like. maybe i was just spinning too much, because as soon as i went WOT in 2nd it spun pretty hard.
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Originally Posted by bongva
LOL I think you're right.

Mods on car: lid, longtubes, 3in exhaust dumped in the rear, ls6 intake, 85mm throttle body, previously tuned on motor. made 356hp/368tq i pulled 4 degrees of timing from my motor map, but i need to pull more because i was getting kr in 3rd gear, never hit 4th.
running br6ef plugs at a .035 gap
bottle pressure was at about 1000psi
NOS Wet kit, single fogger on the intake piping after iat and about 4 inches away from the throttle body.

gonna put my dr's on today and see what it feels like. maybe i was just spinning too much, because as soon as i went WOT in 2nd it spun pretty hard.

Yeah it sounds like everything is on bar. I would also start thinking about a fuel pump, especially when running anything over 100. You are approaching that max on the fuel pump with a 100 jet in it.

I think you will be more satisfied with drag radials and hooking up better.
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Plus get some track times. Seat of the pants feel is one thing but track times are another.

I had a 96 Impala SS on a 100 shot and hitting that on that big tank didn't feel like anything, but at the track it went from 13.63 on the motor to a 12.75 on the bottle.
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I've been spraying a 100 shot, mostly at the strip, for about 5 years. H/C car was making about 430 at the wheels before going a bit less aggressive on the tune. I still nail it on the street once in a while from a 2nd gear start, and still puts a smile on my face when it hits.

I would also agree about upgrading the fuel system, I went with the racetronix plug and play when I added the nitrous kit. Cost effective and very easy install.
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Originally Posted by soco80p
lol i was thinking the same thing. A 100 shot is pretty mild, you done get that star wars warp speed blast until you get a 200+ shot.
lmao.
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Yeah just have to keep in mind that 100 shot on something already making 300+whp isn't going to be like a 4cyl car making 115 spraying a 100 shot. All you really did is put ported heads and a cam on you car for however long you were spraying if you want to think about it like that.
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Thanks for the input guys! when I pull my plugs, what should I be looking for? Just the color of the plugs?
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Originally Posted by bongva
Thanks for the input guys! when I pull my plugs, what should I be looking for? Just the color of the plugs?
It's pretty hard to check the plugs if you ask me. Mainly finding a place to do it is the hardest part. You almost have to be on a closed road somewhere or a track because you pretty much have to start it up for a min and than spray you shot and turn it off pretty soon after spraying for it to read accurate. And than you have to check the plugs wherever you just shut the car down at.
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yea i know what you mean, im almost afraid to pull the plugs when the motor is still hot, or warm, i heard it can damage the head.... is this true? damage the head as in the threads for the spark plugs.
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Originally Posted by bongva
yea i know what you mean, im almost afraid to pull the plugs when the motor is still hot, or warm, i heard it can damage the head.... is this true? damage the head as in the threads for the spark plugs.
Cheap security is to take it to a shop that has a dyno warm it make a pass let it cool down check the plugs and then adjust accordingly. Most kits are pretty dead on out the box but depending on your setup and fuel setup and intake setup you might have to adjust a little.
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its probally just a traction issue. Come to town Ill put the 100 pills back in my car and we can run from a decent roll and see were your at. We can go to mexico again I need to read my plugs although Ive sprayed a bunch already.
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ok so i sprayed my car again the other day, this time with a wideband and a much much smaller fuel jet. The last time i sprayed it, it was running a 34 fuel jet, now it is running a 30 fuel jet, and im still really rich in some areas. took out 3 more degrees of timing and it feels soo much better, there is no knock present. It pulls much much harder than before, i can really feel the nitrous now. im pretty satisfied with it right now, but i guess i will just throw it on the dyno some time this week and give it a good tune.


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