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Old Apr 15, 2013 | 12:37 PM
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I'm thinking of adding up to a 150 shot to my setup, consists of a SBE ls1 with a 230/234 cam @111+3 lsa, stock heads, stock intake, LT's and duals. From what I've been reading a dry shot would be easier provided I can get the nozzle in the ideal spot? I've got 42lb racetronix injectors and the stock fuel pump so I *think* I should be all set for fueling up to a 150ish max correct?

I'd like to do this as safely as possible, so I know I'd need to swap plugs to a TR-6 vs the TR-55's I use now. I'm sure I'd need to regap them to. I'd also need a device to pull timing for the hit, but the maf should be able to instantly add enough fuel right? If theres a major opinion on the maf not being able to keep up, what kind of wet options are best, plate/dp?

I'm mainly looking to do this as a cheaper alternative to a set of badass heads so I'm not looking to get a hardcore set up, just a small shot for when 400rwhp isnt enough. Thanks for any help you can provide!
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Old Apr 15, 2013 | 12:42 PM
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I'd go with the BR7 plugs instead, and get a LNC-2000 to pull timing. This is exactly what I am currently in the process of doing myself
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What n20 set up are you installing?
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Old Apr 15, 2013 | 01:07 PM
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It's a NX wet kit. I'm starting with a 100 shot for now. How about you?
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Im still in the planning stages. I read all 25 pages of the wet vs dry poll, and All I got out of that is the n20 sponsors seem to hate each other haha. I like the idea of dry being less likely to puddle/explode but it seems tuning is less plug n play. Id love to do it the cheapest way but that almost never works out so it seems a wet plate may be more ideal?
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Old Apr 15, 2013 | 02:23 PM
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Yo know IMO they both are equally effective and safe if done right. I've done hours of research on this as well lol. Will you be tuning the car yourself, or will someone be doing it?
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Old Apr 15, 2013 | 02:32 PM
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Im going to try and do it myself. The car is already tuned for the cam and stuff so it looks like it shouldnt be too hard to make the changes from here on out. Pull some timing and add some fuel, how hard can that be?
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Yep that's basically what i'm doing then just throwing it on the dyno to verify a/f. Just buy the timing puller (please seriously consider the BR7's too) follow the instructions and that's it. I just did mine yesterday. I'd start by pulling maybe 6-8 degrees since you want a 150 then depending on a/f go from there
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Old Apr 15, 2013 | 06:43 PM
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Edit: reread your first post, thats the same timing box I was looking into. You running a window switch and all that stuff too I assume?

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The LNC-2000 is exactly what I am using.
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You will need a racetronix fuel pump and I'd go ahead and do the hotwire harness as well. LNC-2000 is fine or use the MSD timing box. BR7 plugs gapped at .035" will work fine and I'd do a wet shot. Much easier to dial in once you're at the track since you can change AFR with jets and not have to do it through the tune. Either way you will need a fuel pump/harness kit.
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Old Apr 17, 2013 | 06:19 PM
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Thanks for all the info, I've got a LNC2000 and window switch on the way. For the fuel system, I'm wondering if the MightyMouse dual in tank pump set up might be better than the racetronix? Granted that's more designed for boosted app's so maybe not?
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MM's set-up is basically just two racetronix pumps. I would just do the racetronix with a hotwire, although using one of those pumps for your nitrous enrichment fueling would be a cool idea for sure.
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hmm....guess Im going to have to get the BR7's also...Im assuming they are NGK's?
will running a colder plug gapped at .035 change the way the car runs NA?
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Originally Posted by stroked383HSR
hmm....guess Im going to have to get the BR7's also...Im assuming they are NGK's?
will running a colder plug gapped at .035 change the way the car runs NA?
Yes they are NGK's, and no they will not change the n/a performance. I'm switching from the TR6's to the BR7's myself
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great! thanks for the info.
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No problem!
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I'd also suggest a fuel pump. The Walboro 255 is good to about 550whp and with the hotwire kit 650whp.
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What do you guys run when going to say 750-800 or so? Dual pumps with the second kicking in on the hit? I'm hoping to have the car around 600 to the wheels at some point and I'd like a little more overhead that just a pump and hotwire looks like it would give me. I try to build my stuff up so it's overkill and in theory less likely to fail or get maxed out.
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Originally Posted by fly boy_1
What do you guys run when going to say 750-800 or so? Dual pumps with the second kicking in on the hit? I'm hoping to have the car around 600 to the wheels at some point and I'd like a little more overhead that just a pump and hotwire looks like it would give me. I try to build my stuff up so it's overkill and in theory less likely to fail or get maxed out.
I like that way of thinking. For that horsepower(750-800) You can either go with a dedicated fuel system for the nitrous or go with a full fuel system front to back with dual pumps.
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