How to NOT blow up your motor w/ Nitrous
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How to NOT blow up your motor w/ Nitrous
I thought I would go ahead and get a thread started on "preventative Maintenience" with nitrous kits. Basically what I want to have is a list of things for people to go by to make sure they dont blow up their motor.
As people post I will update the list. So feel free to post any ideas or comments. Ill go ahead and start
1. Make SURE you have the fuel system to support how much you are spraying.
2. Keep and eye on your 02's via ATAP or any other means necessary.
3. Check your solenoids Periodically to ensure proper functionality.
4. Don't Spray below 3000 rpms, the larger the shot the higher the rpm to start at.
5. Any amount of KR is BAD when spraying.
6. Use the correct plug for your setup and check them often.
7. Fuel cutoff switch on wet kits.
8. Window switch with manual trans.
9. Don't get greedy
10. Ensure you have proper bottle pressure
11. Too much bottle pressure can be bad.
12. Octane booster or race gas for anything over 150hp.
I know there is alot more so hopefully everyone will post up and we can have a "Nitrous Safety" list going <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Sorry I didnt get a chance to update the list over the weekend I was at the shootout and bourbon street <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
<small>[ November 03, 2002, 07:58 PM: Message edited by: Bad Habit Bird ]</small>
As people post I will update the list. So feel free to post any ideas or comments. Ill go ahead and start
1. Make SURE you have the fuel system to support how much you are spraying.
2. Keep and eye on your 02's via ATAP or any other means necessary.
3. Check your solenoids Periodically to ensure proper functionality.
4. Don't Spray below 3000 rpms, the larger the shot the higher the rpm to start at.
5. Any amount of KR is BAD when spraying.
6. Use the correct plug for your setup and check them often.
7. Fuel cutoff switch on wet kits.
8. Window switch with manual trans.
9. Don't get greedy
10. Ensure you have proper bottle pressure
11. Too much bottle pressure can be bad.
12. Octane booster or race gas for anything over 150hp.
I know there is alot more so hopefully everyone will post up and we can have a "Nitrous Safety" list going <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Sorry I didnt get a chance to update the list over the weekend I was at the shootout and bourbon street <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
<small>[ November 03, 2002, 07:58 PM: Message edited by: Bad Habit Bird ]</small>
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Re: How to NOT blow up your motor w/ Nitrous
Hey...great post! <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
6. Use the correct plug for your setup and check them often.
6. Use the correct plug for your setup and check them often.
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So what happens when you dont use a nitrous spark plug. I heard that your performace is hurt some by using those. I have been using normal plugs with my 150 shot. I know they suck and have fouled out because the car pulls weaker. But what is the real reason. Is it just to make sure of no false engagment in a cylinder when it is not that cylinders turn?
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Nitrous97:
<strong>So what happens when you dont use a nitrous spark plug. I heard that your performace is hurt some by using those. I have been using normal plugs with my 150 shot. I know they suck and have fouled out because the car pulls weaker. But what is the real reason. Is it just to make sure of no false engagment in a cylinder when it is not that cylinders turn?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> dood u keep usin plats w/a 150 shot and MTI will be building you a new motor soon. I'd stop this non sense quickly before it goes BOOM.
<strong>So what happens when you dont use a nitrous spark plug. I heard that your performace is hurt some by using those. I have been using normal plugs with my 150 shot. I know they suck and have fouled out because the car pulls weaker. But what is the real reason. Is it just to make sure of no false engagment in a cylinder when it is not that cylinders turn?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> dood u keep usin plats w/a 150 shot and MTI will be building you a new motor soon. I'd stop this non sense quickly before it goes BOOM.
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Re: How to NOT blow up your motor w/ Nitrous
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Nitrous97:
<strong>So what happens when you dont use a nitrous spark plug. I heard that your performace is hurt some by using those. I have been using normal plugs with my 150 shot. I know they suck and have fouled out because the car pulls weaker. But what is the real reason. Is it just to make sure of no false engagment in a cylinder when it is not that cylinders turn?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I've heard that if you use platinum it gets so hot that it literally becomes a glowplug <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
<strong>So what happens when you dont use a nitrous spark plug. I heard that your performace is hurt some by using those. I have been using normal plugs with my 150 shot. I know they suck and have fouled out because the car pulls weaker. But what is the real reason. Is it just to make sure of no false engagment in a cylinder when it is not that cylinders turn?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I've heard that if you use platinum it gets so hot that it literally becomes a glowplug <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by G2 LS1:
<strong>For the amount of a new engine, I would seriously look into a live WideBand O2. Going down the track, youll know exactly when/If it begins to lean out <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">nah, computech dual probe EGT....that thing rules!
<strong>For the amount of a new engine, I would seriously look into a live WideBand O2. Going down the track, youll know exactly when/If it begins to lean out <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">nah, computech dual probe EGT....that thing rules!
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Re: How to NOT blow up your motor w/ Nitrous
Make damn sure you are running a minimum of 100 or 103 octane if you spray more than a 125 shot, you WILL destroy stock pistons over time without it.
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A progressive controller will soften the hit making it more bearing friendly <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
<img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> 150 shot on stock plugs "Car pulls weaker now" Dude,the plug tips are probly missing <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> LOL
<img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> 150 shot on stock plugs "Car pulls weaker now" Dude,the plug tips are probly missing <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> LOL
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NOS brand fuel pressure shutoff (Hobbs) switches are TRASH! Send it to the dumpster and use an A/F meter to constantly monitor the O2's while spraying. I had a fuel solenoid fail once on the TNT 150 shot the O2's went to .000 @ WOT!!! The NOS brand Hobbs switch will turn on and off with engine vibration, just plain junk. Pet Peeve: Vapor in an N2O bottle is not "AIR" it is N2O in the gas state, though almost as worthless.. Last but not least: a little too RICH is always better than a little too LEAN.
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Don't forget..... DO NOT LISTEN to buddies when they tell you to pill it up.. it won't hurt... also FOLLOW mfg suggestions on installation or jet sizes, timing retard (2 deg for every 50 hp rule of thumb) and plug heat range with the correct gap....
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Re: How to NOT blow up your motor w/ Nitrous
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by EVIL:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by G2 LS1:
<strong>For the amount of a new engine, I would seriously look into a live WideBand O2. Going down the track, youll know exactly when/If it begins to lean out <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">nah, computech dual probe EGT....that thing rules!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Tell me more! Have you personally used it?
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by G2 LS1:
<strong>For the amount of a new engine, I would seriously look into a live WideBand O2. Going down the track, youll know exactly when/If it begins to lean out <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">nah, computech dual probe EGT....that thing rules!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Tell me more! Have you personally used it?