This guy has no clue!!!
08-25-2005, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Sam88Gta1
Why cant you make 475 on motor and another 350 on nitrous and run it?
The "cant go 8's" went from...At all to,at the specs of XM.
800rwhp at 3200 will run 8's with a 346.
The stock PCM will fuel the car to 9k.Ask Sean about it..he shifts his car at 8500 on nitrous.
The "cant go 8's" went from...At all to,at the specs of XM.
800rwhp at 3200 will run 8's with a 346.
The stock PCM will fuel the car to 9k.Ask Sean about it..he shifts his car at 8500 on nitrous.
Do you have enough experience with FAST or BS3 to realize how much more power there is by switching to those systems as opposed to using LS1-Edit. I mean, nevermind the fact that with a FAST/BS3 you can use a distributor and an MSD 7530 box. Nevermind the fact that with an MSD box you can program per-gear timing and fuel curves? Who ever would've imagined these things would make your car faster with any given hp. Making power and using the power you make are two different things.
08-25-2005, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by KingCrapBox
Actually, turbo cars turn less RPM than nitrous cars (In real racing at least, I'm not sure about the LS1 world 
). Each turbo can move so many LBS/HR of air. That's how they arrive at HP ratings for each turbo.
I don't know why people say these N20 cars lift the heads so badly. I can see it happening if you do something stupid with the nitrous. Maybe those people should concentrate on making more power without the nitrous instead of just pilling that ***** up.
Powell has a 408, not a 346.
). Each turbo can move so many LBS/HR of air. That's how they arrive at HP ratings for each turbo. I don't know why people say these N20 cars lift the heads so badly. I can see it happening if you do something stupid with the nitrous. Maybe those people should concentrate on making more power without the nitrous instead of just pilling that ***** up.
Powell has a 408, not a 346.
Give me this thought it is not easy to make 500plus HP w/ a stong forged 346...All motor yes but set up with good parts for N2O it isn't that easy....
I will also state that w/ a good 408 U and Powell are on the thesehold of 8's...
Like I said earlier I don't think anybody realized that he was not H/C...Hence why this thread is still going...LOL See you at Thunder....
08-25-2005, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by SPRSPT
That's kool...I think Brad is under the assumption that Powell is a 346...
Give me this thought it is not easy to make 500plus HP w/ a stong forged 346...All motor yes but set up with good parts for N2O it isn't that easy....
I will also state that w/ a good 408 U and Powell are on the thesehold of 8's...
Like I said earlier I don't think anybody realized that he was not H/C...Hence why this thread is still going...LOL See you at Thunder....
Give me this thought it is not easy to make 500plus HP w/ a stong forged 346...All motor yes but set up with good parts for N2O it isn't that easy....
I will also state that w/ a good 408 U and Powell are on the thesehold of 8's...
Like I said earlier I don't think anybody realized that he was not H/C...Hence why this thread is still going...LOL See you at Thunder....
08-25-2005, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by KingCrapBox
Why do you think it would be hard to make 500HP from 346 inches?
08-25-2005, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by SPRSPT
I don't I have seen it many times..."At 29-31 degrees of timing...A 300+ N2O car don't got any where near that much timing in it...Plus most N2O rotating assemblies are made better/heavier that light weight all motor stuff...Personally some of the best motor (H/C) #'s I have seen are on stock Ls6 blocks....Many over 500 hp...
08-25-2005, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by KingCrapBox
I'm stunned you think a 'nitrous minded' 500HP 346 would be difficult.
08-25-2005, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by SPRSPT
To be honest w/ u I do...I figured u did to = Powell 408 C.I.????
And yes, Powell has a 408.
08-25-2005, 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by thechef
when you build this or try to then maybe you can prove everyone wrong but until you build this motor its just a theory of yours
Far more than theory smart guy...
08-25-2005, 11:36 PM
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There's people with alot of money on this board. IF it was so EASY how come NO ONE has done it?????? The fact is that it's not easy. MANY people have tried and are still trying! People that say different have no clue. If not, prove me wrong. I really like the 1000hp comment. I would like to see you keep the water and head gaskets in the motor on spray. That would be a neat trick! I can't even believe that I'm responding to such a stupid comment. Dream on in la la land.
08-26-2005, 03:12 AM
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Let me ask you all a question. How come the SAM car is so far? Why hasn't everyone and thier mom duplicated it? What about Joe O.'s car? Where are the LT1 guys who do what he does?
It's simple.. Most everyone here just goes by whats been done, and never tried anything new!
It's simple.. Most everyone here just goes by whats been done, and never tried anything new!
08-26-2005, 04:01 AM
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I feel that I went 9's without alot of trouble.
Rossler trans $3000
Certified roll cage $2500
CCW wheels and tires $2500
5.3 Stg 1.5 heads with o-ring $1600
Cartech headers $800
Stainless works exh $1000
TNT kit $500
Comp cam $400
fuel pump $250
rearend shaft $200
ARP head studs $200
LS6 intake, Vararam, mass air, injectors, tuning, etc.
So quite abit of hard work and $15K I was in the 9's. Now bare in mind with a killer set of LS6 heads the car made 100 RWHP MORE POWER, enough to go 150 mph in the quarter. But at that power level it gets very difficult to keep the heads on, and of course with a Corvette, makes it pretty much impossible to get down the track without parts breakage. We went 9's without breaking one part.
Rossler trans $3000
Certified roll cage $2500
CCW wheels and tires $2500
5.3 Stg 1.5 heads with o-ring $1600
Cartech headers $800
Stainless works exh $1000
TNT kit $500
Comp cam $400
fuel pump $250
rearend shaft $200
ARP head studs $200
LS6 intake, Vararam, mass air, injectors, tuning, etc.
So quite abit of hard work and $15K I was in the 9's. Now bare in mind with a killer set of LS6 heads the car made 100 RWHP MORE POWER, enough to go 150 mph in the quarter. But at that power level it gets very difficult to keep the heads on, and of course with a Corvette, makes it pretty much impossible to get down the track without parts breakage. We went 9's without breaking one part.
08-26-2005, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by KingCrapBox
Well that was only a hypothetical. There are many different ways to skin a cat. Keep in mind that a 346 CID LSX headed engine will only injest so much nitrous. This isn't a 738 with CFE 18* Big-Chiefs.
Do you have enough experience with FAST or BS3 to realize how much more power there is by switching to those systems as opposed to using LS1-Edit. I mean, nevermind the fact that with a FAST/BS3 you can use a distributor and an MSD 7530 box. Nevermind the fact that with an MSD box you can program per-gear timing and fuel curves? Who ever would've imagined these things would make your car faster with any given hp. Making power and using the power you make are two different things.
Do you have enough experience with FAST or BS3 to realize how much more power there is by switching to those systems as opposed to using LS1-Edit. I mean, nevermind the fact that with a FAST/BS3 you can use a distributor and an MSD 7530 box. Nevermind the fact that with an MSD box you can program per-gear timing and fuel curves? Who ever would've imagined these things would make your car faster with any given hp. Making power and using the power you make are two different things.
We do the best with what we can afford right now. Show me another 358 with a 200-shot running 5.7 @123 in the eight on the stock PCM 
And, BTW, we'd be running the car right now if the head gasket folks would get some to us 
Takes an act of God to get SCE Titans 