Nitrous Oxide Installation | Tuning | Products
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

NX Maximizer II dyno tests inside with dyno graph

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-23-2005, 10:47 PM
  #1  
TECH Veteran
Thread Starter
iTrader: (33)
 
383LQ4SS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Port Richey
Posts: 4,266
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default NX Maximizer II dyno tests inside with dyno graph

Basically just testsd the sytem out. The Maximizer II with wideband, the stand alone fuel system and the alltronics EGT setup. Its all working but will take some getting used to on the best way to extract and use the info. Tha maximizerII is very user freindly and was easy to use and make changes.

The motor is making about the same power it was on motor as last time except this time it was on 28 inch ET drags with 25 psi in them. It made a best of like 545 rwhp. I made the first run on juice with the setup starting at 0% at 3200 rpm and ramping with rpm to 50% by 6800 rpm. It made like 700 rwhp. Last pull was same start point but rapming to 100% (of the 200 shot jets) by 6800 rpm. On that setup it made 755 rwhp or so. Tq was very controlled...which is exactly what i wanted. It was a mild 669 rwtq or so. As a matter of fact the 755 rwhp was done with about 2 gallons of 100 octane and about 7 gallons of 93 in the main tank...and C16 on the front fuel system....FULL TIMING of about 27 degrees. No knock or detonation. That really because the mild TQ numbers along with the C16 accounting for roughly 25% of the HP being made. When I up the shot I will be retarding timing some and adding 110 to the main tank. AF will need to come down to 11.5 as well.

Overall I am very pleased with the initial runs. The next graphs I post on this combo should look significantly different, especially when FJO releases the multi point ramps. Tq will come on sooner and be more flat. And it will carry out to 7000 rpm without dropping off. Goal is 750 rwtq at 7000 rpm (999 rwhp).

Here is a graph from today. Note the very smooth transition from NA to juice.




The Max II is SEAMLESS in the RPM mode. I cant wait to hit it with the 450 shot.

BTW...I drove the STREET car 25 miles in rush hour to get to the dyno
Old 09-24-2005, 12:16 AM
  #2  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (2)
 
Screamin_Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Wichita,Ks
Posts: 1,320
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

very nice, can't wait to see that 450 shot and 11.5 A/F
Old 09-24-2005, 12:31 AM
  #3  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Robert56's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Tacoma, WA
Posts: 9,557
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Damn, very sweet set-up. This is what I am trying to achieve the old school way. I have to much torque as it is, launching at 5500rpm, I was all over the track all night. Man with your set-up 700lb ft torque, or so, at my launch rpm I would need funny car slicks. But I know, the beauty of the MAX II is user adjustability for each set-up/car. Al, you have any, so far, times, as I want to know if I will be even close to catching you, ya right.
Good job though, you know your stuff.
Robert
Old 09-24-2005, 12:44 AM
  #4  
TECH Veteran
Thread Starter
iTrader: (33)
 
383LQ4SS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Port Richey
Posts: 4,266
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Well Robert...I went to the track a few weeks ago running NA on some ET streets. It went 10.7 at 129 with a less than stellar pass on motor. I later found out I had a few busted springs on that run and the 60 foot was only like a 1.57.
I am looking for some 10.3s @ 130+ or so NA and then hit it with the 450 shot...if its possible for me to drive it like that.

Im scheduled to run it this sunday.
Old 09-24-2005, 07:24 AM
  #5  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
gator's 99TA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Tampa Bay
Posts: 9,971
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

congrats al! hard work is starting to really pay off.

i cant wait to see her go down the track tomorow.
Old 09-24-2005, 08:31 AM
  #6  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (12)
 
Bad Habit Bird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: The Woodlands, TX
Posts: 1,934
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

This was with the DP kit correct?
Old 09-24-2005, 09:38 AM
  #7  
TECH Veteran
Thread Starter
iTrader: (33)
 
383LQ4SS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Port Richey
Posts: 4,266
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

yes thats with the NX 90001 EFI direct port kit.
Old 09-24-2005, 09:44 AM
  #8  
TECH Resident
iTrader: (1)
 
NitrousDirect's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 909
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Very nice!
Old 09-25-2005, 05:10 PM
  #9  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (12)
 
Bad Habit Bird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: The Woodlands, TX
Posts: 1,934
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

I keep coming back to this thread and the more I look at it the more I like it I really like the fact that you can bring the nitrous in gradually based on rpm. Having the ability to do this allows users to spray even more nitrous safely and make big power like the turbo guys while having the advantage the instant hit of nitrous as well.
Old 09-25-2005, 06:27 PM
  #10  
TECH Veteran
Thread Starter
iTrader: (33)
 
383LQ4SS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Port Richey
Posts: 4,266
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Bad Habit Bird
I keep coming back to this thread and the more I look at it the more I like it I really like the fact that you can bring the nitrous in gradually based on rpm. Having the ability to do this allows users to spray even more nitrous safely and make big power like the turbo guys while having the advantage the instant hit of nitrous as well.

Thats a fact. It all makes sense. And there is another advantage to the MaxII I was thinking about last night. A buddy of mine that is building a Porsche 944 body with a 500 ci mopar engine with the NX SX2 dual system may end up using the MaxII. And we were discussing the merits of using the system in rpm mode or time based for manual VS auto cars at the track. At first glance it seems obvious that a time based setup is best for an auto. Obviously you bring in juice over time as traction is available and more HP can be applied. This basically will get you through first gear in time mode. But every gear after that will drop in RPM somewhat and then climb to the next shift point. So with the MaxII you could have one stage bring in power over time with traction until it reaches 100%. Then supplement your rpm levels with the second stage in rpm mode after first gear.

That would be kind of cool.
Old 09-26-2005, 09:46 AM
  #11  
Closed ex-Sponsor Account
iTrader: (1)
 
NXRICKY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Wichita Falls, TX
Posts: 2,797
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Nice, something else to think about, if YOU have a boosted car... . you use the MAP sensor to off set any lag issue and remove the nitrous as the power comes up per rpm/ It should be a totally flat torque curve..

Good see all is working well..
Ricky
Old 09-26-2005, 09:53 AM
  #12  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Robert56's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Tacoma, WA
Posts: 9,557
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Any results from Sunday?
Robert
Old 09-26-2005, 10:46 AM
  #13  
FormerVendor
iTrader: (25)
 
Nitro Dave's Nitrous Outlet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Waco, TX
Posts: 12,284
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts

Default

Nice work Al.
Dave
Old 09-26-2005, 11:31 AM
  #14  
LS1Tech Sponsor
iTrader: (10)
 
hellbents10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Spring Lake, MI
Posts: 4,439
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts

Default

For me the maximizer was the key to my 1.51 50ft on 235/60's in the s-10. I came out with 50% then rampoed it to 85% (200 jets) within .7 of a second went 10.64@126.
Old 09-26-2005, 11:32 AM
  #15  
TECH Veteran
Thread Starter
iTrader: (33)
 
383LQ4SS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Port Richey
Posts: 4,266
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Robert56
Any results from Sunday?
Robert

Robert...yes I have results from sunday....the SPEC stage 5 isnt going to hold..at all

I am probably ditching the T56
Old 09-26-2005, 02:10 PM
  #16  
FormerVendor
iTrader: (25)
 
Nitro Dave's Nitrous Outlet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Waco, TX
Posts: 12,284
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by 383LQ4SS
Robert...yes I have results from sunday....the SPEC stage 5 isnt going to hold..at all

I am probably ditching the T56
LOL,
Time for a auto...
Dave
Old 09-26-2005, 02:22 PM
  #17  
TECH Apprentice
 
XJOSHX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 327
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by hellbents10
For me the maximizer was the key to my 1.51 50ft on 235/60's in the s-10. I came out with 50% then rampoed it to 85% (200 jets) within .7 of a second went 10.64@126.
did you make a pass without the progressive to see how much time it really took off the ET?
Old 09-26-2005, 07:11 PM
  #18  
TECH Veteran
Thread Starter
iTrader: (33)
 
383LQ4SS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Port Richey
Posts: 4,266
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Nitro Dave's Nitrous Outlet
LOL,
Time for a auto...
Dave

Yep....TH400 soon. BTW Dave...thanks for all the help...you are the man!
Old 09-26-2005, 07:23 PM
  #19  
Shorty Director
iTrader: (1)
 
VINCE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Valrico, Florida
Posts: 8,260
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts

Default

I wish I had Al money. I would have the Maximizer myself.. Congrats on the setup Al..
Old 09-26-2005, 07:26 PM
  #20  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (12)
 
Bad Habit Bird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: The Woodlands, TX
Posts: 1,934
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by 383LQ4SS
Robert...yes I have results from sunday....the SPEC stage 5 isnt going to hold..at all

I am probably ditching the T56
DAMN!!!!!! I was really hoping to see how fast an M6 could go



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:13 AM.