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Old 09-03-2006 | 05:45 PM
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Ok here's my idea, I just helped my friend install a procharger on his 04 gt, soo it's not running right yet but it will.... Ok here's my dillemma I can't have his GT faster then my TA So I was thinking either going with dynotunenitrous's wet kit
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I want to run a 100 shot, of course along with the window switch. I was thinking that the dry shot would be better for me. I'm new to nitrous, and also was thinking that since the LSX manifolds were DRY manifolds, that the dry kit, might be better for my app. I know a lot of people run wet shots, but I'm not looking to spend a crazy amount of money, and I'm not gonna spray very often. Also my car has 101xxx miles on it so... Yea... What do you think I should do...
Old 09-03-2006 | 06:30 PM
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Doesnt really matter. Dry kit means youll need injectors and a fuel pump. Wet kit you dont.
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So then I guess maybe it would be better to go with a wet shot so I dont have to get upgraded injectors and fuel pump?
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Originally Posted by Rynofasho
Doesnt really matter. Dry kit means youll need injectors and a fuel pump. Wet kit you dont.
I call BS. If you need a pump for dry you'd need it for wet too, simple fact your making the same amount of overall power either way. Injectors yes, stock suck for dry nitrous. caveat to the pump is if you go with a dedicated fuel cell for the wet, which I would recommend.
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I run 120 dry on GM 28.8 injectors and stock 2000 pump i do like to run VP 104 race gas when i spray for comfort
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I run 120 dry on GM 28.8 injectors and stock 2000 pump i do like to run VP 104 race gas when i spray for comfort
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Isn't that pushing the limits too much for these injectors? I'm thinking of going with a dry kit with a 100 or maybe a 150 shot and I have #30 SVO injectors and the racetronics fuel pump and I'm kind of paranoid from what I've been reading and what I have been told so far.Do you have a way to check your air fuel ratio?
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Isn't that pushing the limits too much for these injectors? I'm thinking of going with a dry kit with a 100 or maybe a 150 shot and I have #30 SVO injectors and the racetronics fuel pump and I'm kind of paranoid from what I've been reading and what I have been told so far.Do you have a way to check your air fuel ratio?

Depending on mods yes it could be pushing it, however it could be ok. Its ok in my book, to run inj. beyond the 100%IDC if its only at the track. Either Dry or wet, if an inj. fails your toast.
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Depending on mods yes it could be pushing it, however it could be ok. Its ok in my book, to run inj. beyond the 100%IDC if its only at the track. Either Dry or wet, if an inj. fails your toast.
Ok, along with the 30# SVO's and racetronics fuel pump I have ported LS6 heads, 226/226-585/585 cam on a 112lsa, LS6intake and all the bolt-ons do you think I would be ok with the 5177 kit? How big of a shot can I use and be safe?
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I call BS. If you need a pump for dry you'd need it for wet too, simple fact your making the same amount of overall power either way. Injectors yes, stock suck for dry nitrous. caveat to the pump is if you go with a dedicated fuel cell for the wet, which I would recommend.
Well ya, I would prolly get one too, but sounds like he is on a budget and you dont need a pump for a wet kit but it wouldnt be a bad idea.
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Originally Posted by Rynofasho
Well ya, I would prolly get one too, but sounds like he is on a budget and you dont need a pump for a wet kit but it wouldnt be a bad idea.

Dude, if he needed a pump for a dry kit at 100 shot, then he sure in the hell would need it for the wet kit too. Either way he has to feed the fueling to make that 100extra ponies. Its not something we need to sit and hash out, its not like we're going to change the results of the arguement....IF a pump was needed for one, it would be needed for the other as well.....*caveat being, if he has a dedicated fuel system* That is a fact!


Zitty, I would think you can run 100-125 dry with that setup...do you have the hotwire kit? Regardless, log it/wideband it and see where your at.
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Well what if i was to upgrade the fuel pump, would the stock injectors flow enough??? TSP has an upgraded fuel pump for a resionable price and it flows 255lph...
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I have the stock 26# injectors (1999-2000 LS1's I believe). With a 50 dry shot my injector duty cycle is 106%. I am upgrading to 37's # (this week ).
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I really think he needs to install the 100 shot, and then see where his duty cycle is on his injectors. I was running a bolt on car with 120 shot to the wheels on the stock injectors and pump with no problems. Granted I didn't spray very much, but my duty cycle was under 100% and that was with 470 rwhp
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I really think he needs to install the 100 shot, and then see where his duty cycle is on his injectors. I was running a bolt on car with 120 shot to the wheels on the stock injectors and pump with no problems. Granted I didn't spray very much, but my duty cycle was under 100% and that was with 470 rwhp
I would normally say sure, other than:

A he has some nice bolt-on mods already

B his is a 2000, so he has the smaller 26.6lb inj which are probably near 100%idc now.

Some good and relatively cheap injectors for this setup would be take-offs from a Lightning (42lbs FMS) or a Viper (34lb Bosch) and then flash the new tune for injector size/flow.
Dont be scared of needing new injectors and have that sway you away from going Dry. I say injectors, tune and run it, the pump will go farther than your current injectors will.
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First, you don't need a bottle to beat an '04 Mustang GT with a Procharger. When my Z28 was a bolt-on car with a 3600 Vig nitrous converter, I had no problem beat gt's with huffers on them.

Second, there are local guys spraying 200+ dry shots on stock LS1 fuel systems. Granted, these guys are extremely experienced with nitrous and not recommended for a beginner. I'd recommend a wet kit for a first timer for peace of mind. Plus, wet kits seem to hit harder.

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who said anything about a 200 shot on stock injectors? All I was suggesting is that he put the 100 shot on the car, get it dyno tuned and see where he is. He may or may not need the injectors. I like the idea of a dry shot sine you don't have to worry about fuel puddling in the intake due to a malfunction somewhere, or the fuel noid not firing and losing the engine.
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obrien24, I didn't post the 3rd paragraph.

Umm, CAT3 I think you clicked the wrong button cause you replied in my reply
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Wet kit FTW. 150 shot, racetronix fuel pump kit, safety devices = Close to same cost as going dry. Just thought I'd throw in my 2 cents.
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Yep sure did...damn newbie mods!
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i have no comment on this thread as a simple search i just did came back with over 100 results..



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