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well as far as a 12 bolt go's, i dont really know alot about them. but i figure them to b quite a bit stronger than a 10 bolt. or you could always go eith a corporate 14 bolt! lol what about the dana 60 alot of truck guys use those and ive heard great things about them.
phil as far as your corvette idea, i say for 22,000 you could pick up one hell of a 2002 ls1 camaro, you could get one with really low miles and showroom condition.
phil as far as your corvette idea, i say for 22,000 you could pick up one hell of a 2002 ls1 camaro, you could get one with really low miles and showroom condition.
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Oh no 12 bolts are strong as hell!! Check thus out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tzm2...=youtube_gdata
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tzm2...=youtube_gdata
well as far as a 12 bolt go's, i dont really know alot about them. but i figure them to b quite a bit stronger than a 10 bolt. or you could always go eith a corporate 14 bolt! lol what about the dana 60 alot of truck guys use those and ive heard great things about them.
phil as far as your corvette idea, i say for 22,000 you could pick up one hell of a 2002 ls1 camaro, you could get one with really low miles and showroom condition.
phil as far as your corvette idea, i say for 22,000 you could pick up one hell of a 2002 ls1 camaro, you could get one with really low miles and showroom condition.
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Well since Im turning 32 on monday Im feeling a little old lol, but the good news is that makes me just a little bit closer to my C5Z! Sooooo im in this debate right now rebuild the lt1 and have a forged 383 for $6-$7 or use the money for the downpayment on $22,000 for the z06? Im thinkin the z06 so I can stay up with everyone now days since everyone seems to be getting alot faster,bigger and lt1's well....... they are what they are OLD
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If you don't mind having payments hanging over your head for a few years then the Vette is the way to go...But just remember, Vette guys get that special tax on their parts as well as insurance cost are more I would imagine. Make sure you can afford everything that goes with it. I'd be trying to go with the Vette if it were me
BUT if you don't, don't limit yourself to a 383. We can do a 408 for you that would rip up the streets and track.
BUT if you don't, don't limit yourself to a 383. We can do a 408 for you that would rip up the streets and track.
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well if you do go that route then the first mod you should do is get the headlight confersion kit to get rid of those god ugly frog lights..lol..Less wind resinces when racing at night..lol
Well since Im turning 32 on monday Im feeling a little old lol, but the good news is that makes me just a little bit closer to my C5Z! Sooooo im in this debate right now rebuild the lt1 and have a forged 383 for $6-$7 or use the money for the downpayment on $22,000 for the z06? Im thinkin the z06 so I can stay up with everyone now days since everyone seems to be getting alot faster,bigger and lt1's well....... they are what they are OLD
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Ya thats ok if the lights are old school!! Like poncho said Im attracted to the weight/power and the potential of the ls6! I have owned every gen fbody except first and its time for the upgrade and Im def not a c6 guy too fancy for me lol!! I just need to build a carport onto my house for the camaro before the vette too
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Ya thats ok if the lights are old school!! Like poncho said Im attracted to the weight/power and the potential of the ls6! I have owned every gen fbody except first and its time for the upgrade and Im def not a c6 guy too fancy for me lol!! I just need to build a carport onto my house for the camaro before the vette too
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If you're hardcore GM and want to keep your car that way, then a 12 bolt is a good alternative. They too have "some" of the inherent weakness', one them being a small diameter pinion. The housing's tend to flex so the gears need constant setup work if you want them to live under a 6sp drag car.
Corporate 14 bolt,,,,, now you're talking lol..... But that thing weighs about 100lbs more than a 12 bolt or a 9". Our cars are heavy enough I think.
I haven't even mentioned that a 9" is so much easier to work on. Just remove the center section and you setup the gears on your workbench instead of crawling under the car. The side adjusters on the carrier are threaded, so you don't have to shim the gears, then re-shim, then re-shim again and again and again...... I could go and on for days........
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The z06(3051lbs) will be right at 400rwhp with intake,headers,tune!!!
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Well, to be honest, the axles usually are not the first weak link in a 10 bolt. The ring gear is only 7.765" diameter, compared to a 9" ring gear on the 9" rearends. The pinion gear has a smaller diameter shaft and the bearings are also small so they don't distribute the load very well. The 10 bolts just have too many weak points to make it a viable choice for a 6sp car that sees alot of track events. Personally, I'd rather be racing,,, not fixing rearends.
If you're hardcore GM and want to keep your car that way, then a 12 bolt is a good alternative. They too have "some" of the inherent weakness', one them being a small diameter pinion. The housing's tend to flex so the gears need constant setup work if you want them to live under a 6sp drag car.
Corporate 14 bolt,,,,, now you're talking lol..... But that thing weighs about 100lbs more than a 12 bolt or a 9". Our cars are heavy enough I think.
I haven't even mentioned that a 9" is so much easier to work on. Just remove the center section and you setup the gears on your workbench instead of crawling under the car. The side adjusters on the carrier are threaded, so you don't have to shim the gears, then re-shim, then re-shim again and again and again...... I could go and on for days........
Mike
If you're hardcore GM and want to keep your car that way, then a 12 bolt is a good alternative. They too have "some" of the inherent weakness', one them being a small diameter pinion. The housing's tend to flex so the gears need constant setup work if you want them to live under a 6sp drag car.
Corporate 14 bolt,,,,, now you're talking lol..... But that thing weighs about 100lbs more than a 12 bolt or a 9". Our cars are heavy enough I think.
I haven't even mentioned that a 9" is so much easier to work on. Just remove the center section and you setup the gears on your workbench instead of crawling under the car. The side adjusters on the carrier are threaded, so you don't have to shim the gears, then re-shim, then re-shim again and again and again...... I could go and on for days........
Mike
so phil what year vette you gonna get?
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If anyone is curious here is a list of the fastest c5z's around with just BOLTONS!!! Perfect car for me to enter the lsx world
C5 Z06 External Bolt On Times (stock long-block)
1--10.890@125.06--1.465--GARY2004Z06-'04 12/08-VR, DRs, ARH LTs, Tex Exo-Skel, 4.10s, Post #356
2--11.175@121.07--1.610--94z28racecar--'03 12/09-VR CAI, LTs, UDP, Mcleod Twin, DRs, Post #463
3--11.214@122.30--1.580---Dr Ron -------'03 11/05-VR CAI, ET St, LT, ClutchSlip
4--11.25x@123.7x--1.58x---Butcher-------'03 10/04-Bolt Ons, 3.90 gear
5--11.355@121.92--1.667--Stevo92z28---'02 12/09-LTs, Blackwing, ET Streets, Post #464
6--11.37x@123.7x--1.48x---PaulZ06-------'0x xx/xx -Bolt Ons, 3.73 gearVideo
7--11.405@123.61--1.616 --Qksiver-------'02 01/05-VR CAI, NT DR, Clutch Slip
8--11.442@122.51--1.643---spindoctor----'01 01/07-ET ST, CAI, LT
9--11.461@119.79--1.634---procs2v-------'02 04/08-HT CAI, MT DR, LT, Post 220 Video
10--11.566@119.50--1.772-Robert@SpeedDemon-'04 02/09-CAI, BFG DR, LT, Post #380
C5 Z06 External Bolt On Times (stock long-block)
1--10.890@125.06--1.465--GARY2004Z06-'04 12/08-VR, DRs, ARH LTs, Tex Exo-Skel, 4.10s, Post #356
2--11.175@121.07--1.610--94z28racecar--'03 12/09-VR CAI, LTs, UDP, Mcleod Twin, DRs, Post #463
3--11.214@122.30--1.580---Dr Ron -------'03 11/05-VR CAI, ET St, LT, ClutchSlip
4--11.25x@123.7x--1.58x---Butcher-------'03 10/04-Bolt Ons, 3.90 gear
5--11.355@121.92--1.667--Stevo92z28---'02 12/09-LTs, Blackwing, ET Streets, Post #464
6--11.37x@123.7x--1.48x---PaulZ06-------'0x xx/xx -Bolt Ons, 3.73 gearVideo
7--11.405@123.61--1.616 --Qksiver-------'02 01/05-VR CAI, NT DR, Clutch Slip
8--11.442@122.51--1.643---spindoctor----'01 01/07-ET ST, CAI, LT
9--11.461@119.79--1.634---procs2v-------'02 04/08-HT CAI, MT DR, LT, Post 220 Video
10--11.566@119.50--1.772-Robert@SpeedDemon-'04 02/09-CAI, BFG DR, LT, Post #380
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If anyone is curious here is a list of the fastest c5z's around with just BOLTONS!!! Perfect car for me to enter the lsx world
C5 Z06 External Bolt On Times (stock long-block)
1--10.890@125.06--1.465--GARY2004Z06-'04 12/08-VR, DRs, ARH LTs, Tex Exo-Skel, 4.10s, Post #356
2--11.175@121.07--1.610--94z28racecar--'03 12/09-VR CAI, LTs, UDP, Mcleod Twin, DRs, Post #463
3--11.214@122.30--1.580---Dr Ron -------'03 11/05-VR CAI, ET St, LT, ClutchSlip
4--11.25x@123.7x--1.58x---Butcher-------'03 10/04-Bolt Ons, 3.90 gear
5--11.355@121.92--1.667--Stevo92z28---'02 12/09-LTs, Blackwing, ET Streets, Post #464
6--11.37x@123.7x--1.48x---PaulZ06-------'0x xx/xx -Bolt Ons, 3.73 gearVideo
7--11.405@123.61--1.616 --Qksiver-------'02 01/05-VR CAI, NT DR, Clutch Slip
8--11.442@122.51--1.643---spindoctor----'01 01/07-ET ST, CAI, LT
9--11.461@119.79--1.634---procs2v-------'02 04/08-HT CAI, MT DR, LT, Post 220 Video
10--11.566@119.50--1.772-Robert@SpeedDemon-'04 02/09-CAI, BFG DR, LT, Post #380
C5 Z06 External Bolt On Times (stock long-block)
1--10.890@125.06--1.465--GARY2004Z06-'04 12/08-VR, DRs, ARH LTs, Tex Exo-Skel, 4.10s, Post #356
2--11.175@121.07--1.610--94z28racecar--'03 12/09-VR CAI, LTs, UDP, Mcleod Twin, DRs, Post #463
3--11.214@122.30--1.580---Dr Ron -------'03 11/05-VR CAI, ET St, LT, ClutchSlip
4--11.25x@123.7x--1.58x---Butcher-------'03 10/04-Bolt Ons, 3.90 gear
5--11.355@121.92--1.667--Stevo92z28---'02 12/09-LTs, Blackwing, ET Streets, Post #464
6--11.37x@123.7x--1.48x---PaulZ06-------'0x xx/xx -Bolt Ons, 3.73 gearVideo
7--11.405@123.61--1.616 --Qksiver-------'02 01/05-VR CAI, NT DR, Clutch Slip
8--11.442@122.51--1.643---spindoctor----'01 01/07-ET ST, CAI, LT
9--11.461@119.79--1.634---procs2v-------'02 04/08-HT CAI, MT DR, LT, Post 220 Video
10--11.566@119.50--1.772-Robert@SpeedDemon-'04 02/09-CAI, BFG DR, LT, Post #380
on another note, my caddy broke down about a month ago, so ive been forced to drive the camaro in this **** weather. so far the car looks like **** cuase i never get a break in the weather to wash it. and the interior is just goin to hell in a hand basket, i need new floor mats allready. and my car had kind of a new car smell whenm i first got it now it smells like mildew and crap. it really doesent have that clean look to it anymore, it sucks but what ya gonna do.
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Dummy question time, rim screws go on both inside out outside of the wheel right? First time messing with this, heh.
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