Going to court, need advice please!
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Going to court, need advice please!
Okay, so about three months ago I was getting onto 1-5 N from 520. It was dark/wet and I didn't see a piece of road-debris. I hit the debris going about 45, which cause my back end to kick loose. I tried to correct (and got it 3-4 times) but on the last time spun out across 4 lanes and snagged the guard-rail pretty good.
No other cars involved. Just facing backwards on I-5 at 1AM on the median to the left of the fast lane. . .
Officer came to the scene, accused me of drunk driving (hadn't had ONE drink) and reckless (I denied it, as I was accelerating normally). He harassed me for ten minutes and then proceeded to tell me he didn't have to fill out an accident report (no other cars involved). I said that would be wonderful, because I could lose my job if I get a ticket/at fault accident. He helped me get across and took my license/registration.
I have NEVER had a ticket or at-fault accident. NEVER. This guy let me go after filing an accident report (which was fairly vague from what I could see) and let me drive home with a bruised quarter panel and a bruised ego...
I got the car fixed, told my insurance company I wasn't ticketed, and then got a ticket in the mail a month an a half later for "driving too fast to avoid collision."
I chose not to get it deferred and I'm taking it to court to FIGHT it on the 15th, but I need to know what I can do and say to get the judge's ear. . . I mean, I know I'm a 23 y/o driving a RWD V8 muscle-car, but I was harrassed and then ticketed for a violation I didn't commit. . . What do I do!?
No other cars involved. Just facing backwards on I-5 at 1AM on the median to the left of the fast lane. . .
Officer came to the scene, accused me of drunk driving (hadn't had ONE drink) and reckless (I denied it, as I was accelerating normally). He harassed me for ten minutes and then proceeded to tell me he didn't have to fill out an accident report (no other cars involved). I said that would be wonderful, because I could lose my job if I get a ticket/at fault accident. He helped me get across and took my license/registration.
I have NEVER had a ticket or at-fault accident. NEVER. This guy let me go after filing an accident report (which was fairly vague from what I could see) and let me drive home with a bruised quarter panel and a bruised ego...
I got the car fixed, told my insurance company I wasn't ticketed, and then got a ticket in the mail a month an a half later for "driving too fast to avoid collision."
I chose not to get it deferred and I'm taking it to court to FIGHT it on the 15th, but I need to know what I can do and say to get the judge's ear. . . I mean, I know I'm a 23 y/o driving a RWD V8 muscle-car, but I was harrassed and then ticketed for a violation I didn't commit. . . What do I do!?
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A lawyer's more than the ticket, and I hate most lawyers. I just want to go in and fight this on my own. . . unless someone knows a good lawyer who isn't outlandishly expensive? Ugh, the cheapest I can find is like $250, and I don't want a 'cheap' lawyer either. You know?
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Just go to the hearing yourself, be VERY respectful, and explain to the judge the situation. If anything you can get the ticket knocked down in price at the very least. **** lawyers.
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lawyers are a waste of cash IMO in this case. go in an be respectful, call the the judge you honor and all that ****. explain what happened when he asks you. and tell him why u feel u should not have been ticketed. tell him you have never been in trouble with the law(he will already know that of course though, it will be on his computer. And if all fails and he still wont drop it, which he should, request a defferment or whatever it is. that way it is not on your record unless u get another ticket within a year, then u pay both and they go on your record. I think a deferal costs like 100 bucks or less.
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Originally Posted by Nathan
if you say it was wet and dark, then you might've been driving too fast for conditions.
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yeah i agree.I guess it depends what your after.Not wanting a ticket on your record because you might lose your job?Whats that worth?$350. bucks & not having to stand in the unemployment line?You can drop $350.bucks over dinner & a movie & drinks in one night!Remember these cars are dangerous even on dry pavement!You did the deed now pay the piper!Hope it works out for ya!
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I guess what sucks is I was going straight. . . in 4th. . . at 45. . . and barely hitt ing the gas. Hit a piece of debris or something that's impossible to see, and ugh.
And it wasn't even 'too fast for conditions'.
It was 'too fast to avoid a collision' WTF!?
I may get a lawyer, but I think I stand a good chance of getting this dropped oging in on my own. I suppose we'll see--I may be shooting myself in the foot. This sucks. . .
And it wasn't even 'too fast for conditions'.
It was 'too fast to avoid a collision' WTF!?
I may get a lawyer, but I think I stand a good chance of getting this dropped oging in on my own. I suppose we'll see--I may be shooting myself in the foot. This sucks. . .
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well yeah, lawyer may seem like a lot of cash, but consider this - you have no experience in a traffic court, but the prosecutor and his witness (cop) taxed hudreds if not thousands of guys like you. they know what's up.
lawyer is just a way of making the odds even.
I second Mucklestone recommendation - heard a lot of good things about her.
by the way, you real violation here is "driving a camaro while young" - a bulletproof case in the eyes of many judges - i've been there
lawyer is just a way of making the odds even.
I second Mucklestone recommendation - heard a lot of good things about her.
by the way, you real violation here is "driving a camaro while young" - a bulletproof case in the eyes of many judges - i've been there
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Originally Posted by rookiels1
Yeah I spent $350 on mine and didn't even have to show up to court she got it dropped. Jeannie Mucklestone 206-623-3343
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We used her once years ago, worked great! Then referred her to a friend and she never showed up in court. Our friend was screwed and ended up paying way more than the $350 after it was all said and done...
If you don't get a Lawyer, just go in there and tell the Judge straight up the honest truth. I'm betting you will get it dropped. I think it's really strange that you got a ticket in the mail a month and a half later..is that even legal?
If you don't get a Lawyer, just go in there and tell the Judge straight up the honest truth. I'm betting you will get it dropped. I think it's really strange that you got a ticket in the mail a month and a half later..is that even legal?
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We used her once years ago, worked great! Then referred her to a friend and she never showed up in court. Our friend was screwed and ended up paying way more than the $350 after it was all said and done...
If you don't get a Lawyer, just go in there and tell the Judge straight up the honest truth. I'm betting you will get it dropped. I think it's really strange that you got a ticket in the mail a month and a half later..is that even legal?
If you don't get a Lawyer, just go in there and tell the Judge straight up the honest truth. I'm betting you will get it dropped. I think it's really strange that you got a ticket in the mail a month and a half later..is that even legal?
I was respectful, cooperative, and tried to be patient while he harrassed me on the side of the road in the rain and accused me of driving recklessly and drinking. He even said he 'smelled a little something' on my breath
I know that if I end up going alone I won't disrespect the officer in any way--and I think that's the mistake people make. Judges are probably more inclined to go w/ an officer's word because they are on the same 'side' if you know what I mean.
I like a lot of cops. . . even have some friends, but this one was a real