single vs tri-stage paint???
single vs tri-stage paint??? i have a black camaro with a few nics and scratches that i want to touch up. considering its going to be a "street car" not a "show car" on a budget, would it matter if i used single stage black paint vs the tri-stage black? i can imagine that i would have to feather the car really good to blend it with the stock paint but does it matter when blending?
thanks,
nick
thanks,
nick
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From: Muscle Shoals, AL
yea ur car is black witch means its a 2 stage paint (black basecoat-clearcoat) dont waste ur money and time on single stage. o i'm a bodyman by the way. are u gonna repaint the intire car or what?
Originally Posted by Pro-Mo
Dont waste your time with single stage, especially black.
And instead of painting where the scratches/chips are. Repaint the whole panel vs trying to blend with it.
Originally Posted by 6SSPEED
are u gonna do it urself or pay? and what are u skills?
the car was in an a fender bender so the whole front end also has to be shaped/painted. i want to tackel this myself to save on labor charges, also student budget. i can imagine a hell lot of bondo to shape the front end and those cans combined with primer can be expensive. so i want to try and save money... would the single stage work out for the fenders, hood and front end since i am basicly doing the whole job of shaping to painting? what about the doors and quarters, could it blend in easily?
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Originally Posted by nickx07
i want to attempt to do it myself. for body work skills i have some body shaping with bondo on the roof of a 3rd gen until my dad sold it. as for paint i have no skills. most of the scratches are on the sides (doors and quarter pannels). i hope i can get some advice from other body shops around the island.
the car was in an a fender bender so the whole front end also has to be shaped/painted. i want to tackel this myself to save on labor charges, also student budget. i can imagine a hell lot of bondo to shape the front end and those cans combined with primer can be expensive. so i want to try and save money... would the single stage work out for the fenders, hood and front end since i am basicly doing the whole job of shaping to painting? what about the doors and quarters, could it blend in easily?
the car was in an a fender bender so the whole front end also has to be shaped/painted. i want to tackel this myself to save on labor charges, also student budget. i can imagine a hell lot of bondo to shape the front end and those cans combined with primer can be expensive. so i want to try and save money... would the single stage work out for the fenders, hood and front end since i am basicly doing the whole job of shaping to painting? what about the doors and quarters, could it blend in easily?
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^^^^ no no no prep for single or base/clear should be the same and yes u will have to blend to make it perfect. yes with a single stand u wont have to blend because u cant youll be able to see the spray of the paint with the single stage. and yea u will be able to see the difference in paints if you dont blen it wont be obvioiuse but you be'n the owner will notice trust me save up and youll be much happier in the long run
Originally Posted by 6SSPEED
^^^^ no no no prep for single or base/clear should be the same and yes u will have to blend to make it perfect. yes with a single stand u wont have to blend because u cant youll be able to see the spray of the paint with the single stage. and yea u will be able to see the difference in paints if you dont blen it wont be obvioiuse but you be'n the owner will notice trust me save up and youll be much happier in the long run
what do u mean by you will be able to see "the spray of the paint"? I prep for both types of paints jobs everyday and i guarentee you the prep is different. Although similar prepping for bc/cc has more steps.
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what are the more steps and how do u blend the singe? cuz even when we use bleed in spray if we just spot in a bumper or something no mater how much buffing u do if u look hard enough u can stil see the whats been sprayd its not noticable to most but if you know wat to look for u can see it. and what do u do different in prep?? i also have worked at a restoration and hotrod shop for the last 4 years. alabamaclassiccars.com if ya wanna check out some of my paint work
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as you can see, as with most anything else, you will get different answers, some more accurate then others, then you have the what is "right and what is the wrong way". Long story short your budget is what ultimately decides which way to go about fixing this.
I personally would go with the base coat clear coat set-up vs single-stage, considering you can tell the difference when the single 'dies' down after a period of time especially for a daily driver that is sun-beaten everyday.
Do not attempt to blend panel ( if you are talking about blending within the same panel ? ) as the cost difference does not justify a foggy or rough edge of the clear as you will not end liking the end product, thus spending more money in the end to fix
I personally would go with the base coat clear coat set-up vs single-stage, considering you can tell the difference when the single 'dies' down after a period of time especially for a daily driver that is sun-beaten everyday.
Do not attempt to blend panel ( if you are talking about blending within the same panel ? ) as the cost difference does not justify a foggy or rough edge of the clear as you will not end liking the end product, thus spending more money in the end to fix
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Originally Posted by 6SSPEED
when u blend with a base/clear u only color panit the fixed area then u clear the rest of the panel
that's one way, the other way some blend the clear into existing clear, really doesn't apply to f-body as much as it would a truck or suburban 1/4 panel.
