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Old Oct 13, 2003 | 09:03 PM
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When I let off the brake pedal and start to move,the motor suddenly picks up speed by itself. I can let it go and it will get to almost 20mph like that. Now I am running a TH400 and have had all the tranny codes deleted. When I come to a stop, the motor takes a second before it comes down to idle. Even if I put it in neutral and coast to a stop, same thing. I must be completely stopped before it will idle. Is there some sort of speed sensor that is causing it? Can that be adjusted via LS1 Edit?

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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 12:19 PM
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 01:42 PM
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not sure if it's the same issue I was having... but after I put my 42lb injectors in (after I tuned PCM for them so the car would run) I was surging down low...

I would come to a stop and RPMs would go up to like 1500 then slowly come back down and either surge up and down (eventually dying) or sometimes it would actually hold the idle...

I corrected this by leaning the car out more (via IFR table, lower kpa values I set leaner than upper), also brought Main VE down to 55% original from 0 to 1200 RPM (used to be 70% original before injectors) ...

now when I come to a stop it drops perfectly to idle (900) and stays there... no more up and down hunting, dying , etc...


Another possibility... maybe you have a small vacuum leak? Letting in unmetered air takes PCM a little time to compenstate? LTRIMs look good?
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 04:27 PM
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Have to check LTRIMS. The car idles good, no surging. It drops to idle only when I come to a complete stop. If I let off the brake, and roll maybe 10 feet, it picks up rpm suddenly, not on a gradual climb. I can put it in neutral and coast to a stop, but it still won't go to idle until I'm completely stopped. I would think a vacuum leak would cause it to run at a higher rpm even at idle position.
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 07:55 PM
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Try checking your iacs In gear table in edit That or did you play with your P/N delay ?
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 08:09 PM
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Would the IAC thing make a difference if it was in gear only and NOT moving?
I don't have Edit. Thunder did the tuning, but I haven't been back for them to look a this yet. I want to try to get an idea of where to look when I do.
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 10:48 PM
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Hi Tim, Maybe your brake booster is pulling too much vacuum while your car is rolling. When it is stopped it maybe has less load. Who knows? May also be a little person in there messing with it. LOL. Jimmy
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Old Oct 15, 2003 | 11:44 AM
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Definately, How big is your cam? It may have been over compensated for. Also I see that you have a A3 tranny if the convertor is tight its hard to tune for a good idle.
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Old Oct 15, 2003 | 11:57 AM
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Well the car idles great, and its a very loos convertor. Cam is somewhat big, I'll check those settings out.
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Old Oct 15, 2003 | 12:23 PM
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There's something about the IAC not settling to
baseline until the car is fully stopped, to keep
the IAC loop from bottoming out & hunting. It sets
a higher value & drops it slowly to the setpoint
after you drop below (whatever speed threshold)?
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Old Oct 15, 2003 | 02:57 PM
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Tim, it sounds like the idle air in gear has been raised.
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Old Oct 15, 2003 | 03:10 PM
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Tim, it does sound like the RAF in Running air is too high.
Reduce RAF values at the temps at which it's doing it. Try -.50 and adjust up or down from there.
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Old Oct 15, 2003 | 07:57 PM
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Will get that checked out when I go back to Thunder.
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