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Old 08-26-2011, 10:57 PM
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Just picked up a 98 TA m6. 146k. Stock with SLP lid and intake manifold and a muffler. Has a miss under load. I'm thinking fuel delivery problem like the injectors or possibly fuel pump (origional). Does it at all RPM's and sometimes worse then other times. Seems not as bad on hwy, any thoughts?
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Thots??
1. Get a scanner on it.
2. Data logs available?
3. Fuel psi is?
4. Fresh tune [Plugs, wires, fuel filter, clean maf,etc]
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I know I would definately start with a fuel filter,, then plugs. Could be coil pack, wire, any codes being thrown??
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Thats the funny thing..no ses light. Maybe because its not constant? This will be my 4th ls1 car and ive never had one act like this.
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Spark plug wires and possibly plugs, change both before chasing anything else.
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Originally Posted by Old Geezer
Thots??
1. Get a scanner on it.
2. Data logs available?
3. Fuel psi is?
4. Fresh tune [Plugs, wires, fuel filter, clean maf,etc]
Whats "thots"?
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I agree with O2Form, in the absence of an SES look at plugs and wires first.
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No light , dirty injectors or fuel filter or weak fuel pump , are You sure knock sensors are online ? Could be exhaust a little clogged . Just drive it until it stores a code and go from there .
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Ignition component breakdown is where you will almost always find the cause of a misfire under load.

Like posted, check plugs and wires. Check spark strength at each coil as well, a weak coil will do that too.

Changing the fuel filter and cleaning the MAF are good ideas but they are not going to fix the misfire.

Injectors are pretty consistent, they generally work or they don't.

So again, check ignition components. Most likely it is a plug. LS1 coils and wires are very durable.
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OK guys did a fuel pressure check tonight, 58-60 psi any throttle. That eliminates the pump. I picked up some new delco platinum plugs and a fuel filter and will go to town on her as soon as I find somewhere that has some good wires in stock. Only thing they had was durlalast wires at the local autozone and im not running that junk on this car. Anyone have a brand they have had luck with? I was thinking MSD. Also is there any way to easily test each coil to see if ones weak?
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Also I did get into it a little tonight to try and get it to throw a light with no success, I didnt wanna push it too hard acting like that, but I did notice sometimes its worse the other times. I dont think that helps narrow it down at all though does it?
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Run NGK tr55's and either MSD or Taylor wires.. I dont recommend running platinum anything... just my 2 cents...
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stock is double platinum.
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Originally Posted by HottLS1Z
stock is double platinum.
There are two schools of thought on choosing spark plugs. Many of the folks that post in this forum prefer to run less expensive non-precious metal plugs (usually copper) and change them frequently. Others prefer to run the more expensive precious metal plugs (copper-based with a platinum, double platinum, gold-palladium, or iridium coating) and change them less frequently. For your purposes of eliminating a misfire either choice will work - take your pick.

With regard to spark plug wires, the OEM sets are hard to beat in terms of cost/performance. Granatelli wires offer the lowest resistance (measured in ohms) but are expensive. I also like Firecore 50s. My tuner forbids me from running MSD wires (which are popular) because of their failure rate.
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Stock wires and some Autolite double plats are easily good for 100k miles.
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Originally Posted by Darkman
There are two schools of thought on choosing spark plugs. Many of the folks that post in this forum prefer to run less expensive non-precious metal plugs (usually copper) and change them frequently. Others prefer to run the more expensive precious metal plugs (copper-based with a platinum, double platinum, gold-palladium, or iridium coating) and change them less frequently. For your purposes of eliminating a misfire either choice will work - take your pick.

With regard to spark plug wires, the OEM sets are hard to beat in terms of cost/performance. Granatelli wires offer the lowest resistance (measured in ohms) but are expensive. I also like Firecore 50s. My tuner forbids me from running MSD wires (which are popular) because of their failure rate.
Hmm yeah I have no desire to change plugs all the time, don't need to and waste of time imo. Ill stick with platinum. As for wires I ran msd on my stroker and nevr had any issues, I was planning on picking some up today. Never hear of firecore, my choices are limited without ordering online or driving an hr to speed inc or somewhere like that. Anyone know what the stealership charges for oem?
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The MRSP on the OEM wires is $119.00, my local auto parts store (OReilly's) sells them $77, and they can be mail ordered for about $67 (pre-shipping).
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As mentioned above, I would check the coils
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only had time to pull 2 plugs tonight, both are destroyed, white and the electrode is gone...some sort of bosch platinum plug (too hot or improper gap???). Other thing I'm wondering about is this, I picked up some NGK platinum plugs and they gave me part #3186 which is "5" heat range plugs. I always thought TR55 was the stock heat range on LS1's as far as the copper anyways? Also as far as I know stock gap is .060 and according to the person at the parts store NGK calls for a .040 gap. I dont see why it would be that different so the 2 I put in already I gapped at .050, anyone else experienced this?
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I did in my 2000 M6 TA. When cruising in any given gear, at a low rpm under any considerable kind of load, you could tell there was a miss. 60mph, 6th gear, WOT, it was bad. Only had it happen twice that day, got so violent, I was up until 2am doing a plug/wire change. Got 7 of them done, and it dissapeared. That's all I can give ya, as far as a similar first hand experience


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