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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 03:16 PM
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I installed my wideband today and the gauge comes on and just blinks 7.4. The calibration led doesn't ever light up and the sensor doesn't get warm either. Anyone have any suggestions. Thanks
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 08:25 PM
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How did you wire it up...?

( the black wire from the LC-1 is not a ground )
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If it doesn't get warm then it doesn't have power, either 12v or grounding problems.. Wherever you ground to the frame make sure you grind the paint away first..

Heater grounds and calibration ground should all be crimped to the same ring and then grounded to get a good signal..
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Old Mar 7, 2014 | 06:25 AM
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My directions showed black wire from lc1 goes to cal button, then button to engine ground. All grounds are to engine block per instructions. Also verified 12v source with multi meter.
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Originally Posted by LsoneGT
My directions showed black wire from lc1 goes to cal button, then button to engine ground. All grounds are to engine block per instructions. Also verified 12v source with multi meter.
Ok did you make sure to plug the sensor In to the lc1 cable box and let it sit for a minute or 2 while it warms up?

I'd hate to think you got a dud straight out of a brand new box

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Yes, but the sensor never gets warm.
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Yes, but the sensor never gets warm.
Send it back, they should warranty it!
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Old Mar 7, 2014 | 10:58 AM
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Yea I filled out a rma form. They haven't replied yet. I was hoping to race Sunday but not gonna happen.
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Originally Posted by joecar
How did you wire it up...?

( the black wire from the LC-1 is not a ground )
x2; and for the OP here is one I recently removed that was working great:
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Mine was wired the same as the picture
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Old Mar 7, 2014 | 01:54 PM
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I had the yellow wire by itself and the brown to white on the gauge
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Originally Posted by LsoneGT
I had the yellow wire by itself and the brown to white on the gauge
Did you try the yellow one? Channel1 and Channel2 is programmed differently. I recall mine Channel 2, out of the box, was setup for Narrow Band emulation.

Did you try using LM PRogrammer to ensure it was setup as expected ? Note, anytime there is a sustained power loss w/the LC1, it WILL loose its settings and youwill have to reset w/LM Programmer.

Which gauge?
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Yes I tried both with same results. Its the gauge that came with it. Regardless of what mode its in I would expect the sensor to warm up and the cal led to light up right? Neither is happening
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What should the gauge show with the lc1 unplugged?
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Does the LED flash at all...?

Is the LED polarity correct...?
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This is how I had my LC-1 wired up:

LC1-red -> switch/fused power
LC1-blu -> battery ground
LC1-yel -> narrowband signal (if required)
LC1-grn -> narrowband return (if required)

LC1-brn -> wideband analog signal (to logger)
LC1-wht -> wideband analog return (to logger) and pushbutton/LED cathode(-)
LC1-blk -> pushbutton/LED anode(+)



( now I use EFILive serial comms instead of the wideband analog signal/return )
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Led never does anything.
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Originally Posted by LsoneGT
Led never does anything.
Have you got it in the correct polarity...?

Turn it around, and if it still does nothing, try another LED (from Radio Shack).
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How would I check polarity? I removed it from the car to ship to innovate tomorrow morning. I can reinstall it if need be it only takes a second. With the lc1 out of the car the actual gauge still blinks 7.4. Is this normal?
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Originally Posted by LsoneGT
How would I check polarity? I removed it from the car to ship to innovate tomorrow morning. I can reinstall it if need be it only takes a second. With the lc1 out of the car the actual gauge still blinks 7.4. Is this normal?
The LED cathode is the shorter lead/leg... you can test the LED by connecting it in series with a 120ohm resistor to a two AA batteries, it should light up.

No, that is not normal, it is fubar'd.
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