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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 08:24 AM
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I've done a good bit of searching on Fast's crank sensor decoder, but i haven't really found any literature on it. I haven't even found a website that lists it for sale.

Anyone have any information on it? A place where I can pick one up online maybe?
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 09:29 AM
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Call up FAST. They don't know much there, but it is better than nothing.

The box will give a hall effect signal @ 60 BTDC which is what most standalones require for a trigger angle. Depending on your fueling strategy (batch vs. sequential) you will also need a cam sensor. I tried to find when the stock cam setup gave its signal, but I was never able to get a response.

What is your proposed setup?

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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 09:45 AM
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Thanks, I'll give them a call.

I'm looking to use an AEM ems with a turbo ls1. I don't have a lot of experience with crank triggers to be honest, but i'm determined to learn and make this work in the process.

This may be a n00b question, but what exactly do people mean when they refer to a 4x signal? How many teeth does the LS1 crank have?
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Kurt @ W2W sells them, his email address is kuperf@aol.com.

He also has a lot of crank trigger experience.

The FAST is 4x.

The LS1 is 24X if I recall.

LS2 is 60X.
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thanks, but what exactly do you mean by 4x, 24x, 60x etc... What variable does the numerical value stand for.
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The numerical value is the times per revolution that a crank signal is put out.
Most standalones require 4 outputs per revolution, at 60 degrees BTDC though some have adjustable trigger angle.

I'm assuming you are considering the generic AEM? They have really missed the boat by not offering an LS1 compatible piece but it would be difficult for any standalone to mirror the capabilities of the factory PCM.

Why would you ditch the stock computer?

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thanks, but what exactly do you mean by 4x, 24x, 60x etc... What variable does the numerical value stand for.

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Merging AEM and FAST stuff sounds difficult, good luck on that.
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by 1point3liter
thanks, but what exactly do you mean by 4x, 24x, 60x etc... What variable does the numerical value stand for.
The numerical stands for the number of trigger events per crank revolution. Being a 4 cycle engine requires 2 crank revolutions to complete a full cycle a 4X will give you 8 trigger events to complete fireing all 8 cylinders. The 24x, 60x etc are used in vehicles that test for misfires by comparing the the number of triggers per time at a given RPM, the PCM sorts out the required 4x for each cyl. Not only can they diagnose a misfire, this can also tell you what cyl it is, neat. Most standalones such as FAST and Accel/DFI require a 4x trigger signal. AEM can be programmed for many others. Electromotive supplies their own trigger wheel etc.

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