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Old 04-10-2005, 12:46 AM
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Default 02s Suddenly Drop From 950+ mV to Less than 100 mV at WOT

A few days ago I reported that I was having a problem with my car cutting out at high RPM during WOT; it was almost as if the car was hitting the rev-limiter. I've been looking at my log file, and I discovered that my 02s are suddenly dropping dramatically at WOT. They're dropping at exactly the same time the engine starts "missing."

While this is happening, the injector pulse width is falling from 19+ to less than 1 (usually 0.5). Usually, both banks fall equally, but there are several instances when B1 is at ~19 and B2 is at ~0.5.

Here's an example of this from my log (RPM, TP, Timing, 02B1, 02B2, Inj. B1, Inj. B2)...

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6173	100	28.5	959	938	19.2	19.3
6150	100	28.5	82	464	19.5	19.4
6369	100	28.5	78	87	0.5	0.5
6353	100	28.5	378	113	18.9	0.5
6140	0	37.5	964	951	10.8	4.9
6017	0	37.5	90	898	929	0.5
5771	0	37.5	838	885	2.1	2
5511	0	37.5	760	799	2.1	1.9
5196	29	31.5	690	790	2	1.9
5296	100	28.5	968	946	21.5	20.8
The entire log is available here.

Is this the result of a bad 02 sensor or 02 sensor connection? Or is something else causing this?

Interestingly, it seems to happen only in first and second gear.

Thanks,
Josh
Old 04-10-2005, 04:50 AM
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Ok. I don't really care, but if you need some help, give some info on your setup. Your initial post lacked enough content to help you.(I'm not really an *******, I just play one in real life!
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Originally Posted by Josh
A few days ago I reported that I was having a problem with my car cutting out at high RPM during WOT; it was almost as if the car was hitting the rev-limiter. I've been looking at my log file, and I discovered that my 02s are suddenly dropping dramatically at WOT. They're dropping at exactly the same time the engine starts "missing."

While this is happening, the injector pulse width is falling from 19+ to less than 1 (usually 0.5). Usually, both banks fall equally, but there are several instances when B1 is at ~19 and B2 is at ~0.5.

Here's an example of this from my log (RPM, TP, Timing, 02B1, 02B2, Inj. B1, Inj. B2)...

Code:
6173	100	28.5	959	938	19.2	19.3
6150	100	28.5	82	464	19.5	19.4
6369	100	28.5	78	87	0.5	0.5
6353	100	28.5	378	113	18.9	0.5
6140	0	37.5	964	951	10.8	4.9
6017	0	37.5	90	898	929	0.5
5771	0	37.5	838	885	2.1	2
5511	0	37.5	760	799	2.1	1.9
5196	29	31.5	690	790	2	1.9
5296	100	28.5	968	946	21.5	20.8
The entire log is available here.

Is this the result of a bad 02 sensor or 02 sensor connection? Or is something else causing this?

Interestingly, it seems to happen only in first and second gear.

Thanks,
Josh
at WOT you should be in PE and the pcm isn't relying on feedback from o2's. I don't think your problem has any thing to do with the o2's. What is your rev limit set at?
Old 04-10-2005, 07:04 AM
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I'd hang a fuel pressure gauge on it where you an see the indicator and re-test.

Ghetto setup is to duct-tape the indicator to the outside of your windshield. You just need one good WOT blast to see if the needle drops as the revs climb.
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Your rev limiter can be different in different gears. Who tuned it, and can you look at the tune. That does not look like an accident. It looks like you actually did hit a rev limiter.
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The rev-limiter is at 7000 in every gear. I tuned it myself and have triple checked it since I first discovered this was happening.

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how are your plugs? especially if you're revving to 7k, you might wanna get some new plugs with a smaller gap
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The rev-limiter is at 7000 in every gear. I tuned it myself and have triple checked it since I first discovered this was happening.

Josh
You know there are multiple rev limiters, right?
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Yes, I've changed them all. Well, except for sixth, it's still at 6200, but the others are all at 7000.

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