U guys are scaring the shi.........
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U guys are scaring the shi......... I was seriously lookin to buy a LS1 f-body , but after reading about all the problems u guys have been having.I am starting to reconsider and stick with my 10 sec. 68camaro.I love the looks and the potential these cars have.But, I am worried to death that when I start mod.ing it that I will mess **** up.A friend of mine just installed heads and cam then had to pay someone big money to tune it.Then he installed a vig. verter 3200, and the damn thing wont rev over 3500 rpm.Like its in limp mode or something.Now he claims he has to have it reprogramed again.Thats way to much bullshit for me I think.I am used to ploppin a carb on and rollin down the rode.Can anyone settle my doubts before I change my mind for good. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
Re: U guys are scaring the shi......... get a stick shift and u dont need the tuning till you mess with the engine. you can do most bolt ons and do the tuning your self with the htpp3
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Re: U guys are scaring the shi......... 99% of the time you won't have any problems. Occasionally, things will crop up.
If you read up on the LS1, and ask questions as you make your decisions, you're not going to have huge issues.
When you break new ground, you're going to run into problems nobody has seen.
It is a new breed of engine and there is a lot of enjoyment to be found with them.
He's right. Buy a M6 and you'll have fewer problems, just plan on replacing the clutch.
I'd advise staying away from the Hypertech. Save your money, but a cheap laptop(they're for sale all the time on here) and LS1edit. You'll learn what you are doing and can do all the programming you'll need.
I'd keep the 68 and buy a new one <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
<small>[ September 12, 2002, 09:09 PM: Message edited by: DenzSS ]</small>
If you read up on the LS1, and ask questions as you make your decisions, you're not going to have huge issues.
When you break new ground, you're going to run into problems nobody has seen.
It is a new breed of engine and there is a lot of enjoyment to be found with them.
He's right. Buy a M6 and you'll have fewer problems, just plan on replacing the clutch.
I'd advise staying away from the Hypertech. Save your money, but a cheap laptop(they're for sale all the time on here) and LS1edit. You'll learn what you are doing and can do all the programming you'll need.
I'd keep the 68 and buy a new one <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
<small>[ September 12, 2002, 09:09 PM: Message edited by: DenzSS ]</small>
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Re: U guys are scaring the shi......... I have also read the tranny section. It looks like a lot of guys have had problems with stickin gears and weak clutches.I thought the T56 was supossed to be strong. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
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Re: U guys are scaring the shi......... There are problems with any car.
Most of the T56's last a hell of a long time through a hell of a lot of abuse. You have to remember that people rarely post "Yy God, my T56 has worked flawlessly for 100K miles and over 300 passes" in a technical help section.
The clutches are weak, be prepared to replace that. Otherwise, the problem are relatively few.
<small>[ September 12, 2002, 09:20 PM: Message edited by: DenzSS ]</small>
Most of the T56's last a hell of a long time through a hell of a lot of abuse. You have to remember that people rarely post "Yy God, my T56 has worked flawlessly for 100K miles and over 300 passes" in a technical help section.
The clutches are weak, be prepared to replace that. Otherwise, the problem are relatively few.
<small>[ September 12, 2002, 09:20 PM: Message edited by: DenzSS ]</small>
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Re: U guys are scaring the shi......... It is strong best you can get short of Liberty or Jerico, some guys brutalize them with wot 3rd to second accidental shifts. There are some upgrades you can do to T56 like shift forks from Viper app. etc. still trans kicks *** for street strip cars! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Camaro]" title="" src="graemlins/camaro.gif" />
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Re: U guys are scaring the shi......... I researched the LT1 and LS1 f-bodies for almost six months before i bought one. I have come across few who have had major problems. Most of the time when guys have problems its because they had someone who has never touched one of these car do the work. And who said the M6 cars have fewer problems hasn't done their hw.....m6s break rearends clutches and everything frequently....especially with unskilled drivers.....the A4 is much more dependable...i would know...i have one....
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Re: U guys are scaring the shi......... I realize that every car has its problems.I know mine has roken the ring gear three times and its a 12 bolt.The thing that scares me is the tuning process.As i said before ,I am used to old school.But, I am willin to learn as long as u guys have patience with my naggin questions.... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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Re: U guys are scaring the shi......... My set up is almost 3yrs old and pulling harder then ever. I have had no problems with the car yet. And as far as tunning I only have a HPP3 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
<small>[ September 12, 2002, 10:31 PM: Message edited by: Street Racer ]</small>
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Re: U guys are scaring the shi......... hey i went 11's with no tuning at all.. just a vig3600 and headers on nitto drags <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
every make/model has problems... to run the best we just choose to fine tune the cars. You just see the bad apples that cant get things straight, but outta those 2-3 ones with issues its 100+ running great <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
its so many things we are learning right now. With edit we can tune anything anytime. A few years from now and all of this will be childs play and tubing will be SIMPLE <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
every make/model has problems... to run the best we just choose to fine tune the cars. You just see the bad apples that cant get things straight, but outta those 2-3 ones with issues its 100+ running great <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
its so many things we are learning right now. With edit we can tune anything anytime. A few years from now and all of this will be childs play and tubing will be SIMPLE <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Re: U guys are scaring the shi......... In my opinion, the people who run into problems are those who deviate from the norm. What I mean is, if you follow proven set ups then you stand a much better chance of not running into problems. Shizit will still break if you're going to drag race but you should be happy with what you get out of your LS1.
I've owned two LS1s. A '99 Z28 6-Speed that did great for a while but then became a huge head ache when I chose the wrong set up, IMO. Now I have a '02 Z28 Automatic. I'm already running faster than my '99 and I'm still using the stock converter. I love these cars and wouldn't want any other.
Derrick
I've owned two LS1s. A '99 Z28 6-Speed that did great for a while but then became a huge head ache when I chose the wrong set up, IMO. Now I have a '02 Z28 Automatic. I'm already running faster than my '99 and I'm still using the stock converter. I love these cars and wouldn't want any other.
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Re: U guys are scaring the shi......... </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by SuperSound99SS:
<strong>And who said the M6 cars have fewer problems hasn't done their hw.....m6s break rearends clutches and everything frequently....especially with unskilled drivers.....the A4 is much more dependable...i would know...i have one....</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think his point was from the tuning aspect. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />
<strong>And who said the M6 cars have fewer problems hasn't done their hw.....m6s break rearends clutches and everything frequently....especially with unskilled drivers.....the A4 is much more dependable...i would know...i have one....</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think his point was from the tuning aspect. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />
Re: U guys are scaring the shi......... Part of it is just perspective too.
I've done more stuff to my 99 T/A than my 72 Vette. I don't understand Q-jet's or points worth a damn. I worry about messing some vacuum line or something up on the 72 way more than getting a code on the 99. At least the computer cars can kinda point you in the direction of what's wrong. Most basic mod's for the LS1 are pretty simple and easy to do.
I've done more stuff to my 99 T/A than my 72 Vette. I don't understand Q-jet's or points worth a damn. I worry about messing some vacuum line or something up on the 72 way more than getting a code on the 99. At least the computer cars can kinda point you in the direction of what's wrong. Most basic mod's for the LS1 are pretty simple and easy to do.
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Re: U guys are scaring the shi......... You also have to realise that message boards on the internet are pretty much based on people having problems and trying to get help. Besides people posting their Quarter times and Dyno sheets people rarely preach about all of the good luck they are having----->> IMHO
-Nick
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