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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 11:36 AM
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yes i have done searches but i am thinkin of having a sponsor street tune my car because it will be cheaper and it is a pretty basic 01z28 with just intake and LT headers n exahust.. Can they still see and mess with timing and AF ratio...Is there anything that you cant do with a street tune that you can do with a dyno tune ...thanks
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 11:52 AM
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I think steet better. You just need a good place to do wide open runs. The "pros" use a dyno so they dont have take a car out and run it hard on the strret. You never know what can happen. On a dyno have to worry. A dyno does not do a great job of simulating a car driving but you can kind of tune on it(kind of).
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 11:53 AM
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A simple answer would be yes for your setup.
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 12:11 PM
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thanks haha i like those simple answers
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 02:25 PM
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The only thing you can't do is "see" the impact of changes as far as HP and TQ go. You can get your fueling down pretty well but to get the "best" spark timing and tweaking you need something to tell you the results. Just changing timing can change HP output by +/- 5%.

I prefer to start with a street tune then spend a little time on the dyno "perfecting" it.

Also WOT runs to 130+mph on the street are bad mmmkay?
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 04:23 PM
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The only thing you can't do is "see" the impact of changes as far as HP and TQ go. You can get your fueling down pretty well but to get the "best" spark timing and tweaking you need something to tell you the results. Just changing timing can change HP output by +/- 5%.

I prefer to start with a street tune then spend a little time on the dyno "perfecting" it.

Also WOT runs to 130+mph on the street are bad mmmkay?
With the right equipment you can measure peak cylinder pressure off the dyno.

I agree 130 on a public road is not safe. That's what the track is for.
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 05:57 PM
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I agree with Doc.You can easilly 100% tune your car on the street.
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Street tuning works great, however, as was mentioned earlier it almost always involves questionably safe driving. I have had a few scary moments, both driving while someone else tuned, and tuning while someone else drove. I learned a valuable lesson when I was driving while my friend tuned his '70 Vette. Always find out if the steering is loose and the brakes pull hard to one side before hitting triple digit speeds.
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by chevy0128
yes i have done searches but i am thinkin of having a sponsor street tune my car because it will be cheaper and it is a pretty basic 01z28 with just intake and LT headers n exahust.. Can they still see and mess with timing and AF ratio...Is there anything that you cant do with a street tune that you can do with a dyno tune ...thanks
Street tune is "better" in my opinion. On a dyno and on the street are 2 different enviornments. W/ your setup you should have no problem adding a little timming leaning her out ex ex... What are you tunning w?
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 08:28 PM
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"waiting for people to bash my opinion on street tune vs dyno" The only reason i said this is because with my 1993 talon and 1998 gst i encountered WAYYYYY different results intake temp, knock ex ex.. I set it up on the dyno got my true O2 and boost readings then made a few pulls ok good to go, but in reality that intercooler wasnt getting those bags of ice put on it after each pull haha. Wel i know that lsx's and dsms are 2 different animals but the final word is that a street tune will be more benificial in the sense that you are tunning it for where it is driving on the street.
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 05:23 AM
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well i actualy was going to get a street tune through a sponsor im not sure what they are tuning with i wil find out though. I just thought it wil be a goot 100-200bucks cheeper n its not like im headsn cam just LT sooo ya
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There are ways to do a street tune without going 100+mph, you just have to know what gear and speed to do it in, I personally will tell my customers 1st hand on a street tune that I am not going to sit in the passengers seat running at speed....
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by moehorsepower
There are ways to do a street tune without going 100+mph, you just have to know what gear and speed to do it in, I personally will tell my customers 1st hand on a street tune that I am not going to sit in the passengers seat running at speed....
True you can reach high load and high rpm at relatively low speed in the lower gears but you are in that range for a much shorter period of time so you won't gather as much data. For instance if you are at 5500 RPM in 1st gear you'll be at redline (6500ish) in a matter of less than 1 sec. while in comparison if you do the same in say 4th gear it will take you more like 4 sec to go from 5500 to redline. Thereby allowing you to gather much more data to tune from.

We didn't even start to discuss load bearing dynos which allow you to easily stay at any given RPM to diagnose tuning issues.

Don't get me wrong, I don't prefer one over the other, I did MUCH of my tuning on the street. There are just some things that easier and safer to do on a dyno.
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