Shift Points and Rev Limiter for 4:10 Gears
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Shift Points and Rev Limiter for 4:10 Gears I just purchase LS1edit and I am new with using the program. Can someone tell me specificly where to go in the program and change shift points and rev limiter. Also when I run the 1/4 my A4 shifts into 4th before I reached the finished line. Can I extend 3rd gear by increasing the MPH--what is the highest I can go to without doing any harm. Your assistance will be appreciated.
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Re: Shift Points and Rev Limiter for 4:10 Gears Thanks for the reply. I have a 02 replacement engine in a 99 car. Can you still explain which sections of LS1 you go to for these changes. I have reviewed all sections previously by reviewing but have made no changes--just trying to get familiar with program.
Re: Shift Points and Rev Limiter for 4:10 Gears Woah i dont now if id do that!!!!!! ive asked that question so many god dam times you would not belive and what ive come up with is the stock shift points are all round 5900 and thats where they should be for safety issues if you dont belive me poll the statment running a stock ls1 past 6k is a good idea and you will see also hpp recently did an article that even labled one of the 10 biggest mistakes for ls1's is to run past 6k with stock internals they agree this advantage which i think runs out round 6300ish but its bot worth the damage that will occour hell if you decide to go ahead and run that high let me know but dont say you were not warned cause ive asked that question and got too many answers back almost all saying not to go past 6000
Re: Shift Points and Rev Limiter for 4:10 Gears yeah do NOT go over 6000 on a 99 motor. with 2k+ they have diffrent rod bolts so you can go 6200 ish, i would NOT EVER spin a stock motor that high. Even with rod bolts and springs i still wouldnt go 6900...where did you get this info? are you trying to make this guy lose his engine?
Re: Shift Points and Rev Limiter for 4:10 Gears the 2 articles i read that finally made the decsion for me was one and an article in hpp that said reving past 6k is one of the top 10 dont's for a ls1 and 2 when i carefully read my hpp3 manual it states that the rev limit change option is for modfied valve trains (although the guys at hypertech reccomended shiftpoints that were in the 6300 ish range which i tried for a while and liked but figured its was unnessary abuse) as far as claims by some that ive recently red of reving to 6500 and higher i personally think that it may be possible and even not bad but not with the stock cam. im no expert but i do belive that certain cams put more stress on your engine than others and therefore some can get away with reving past 6 on stock valves and springs just by doing a different cam
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Re: Shift Points and Rev Limiter for 4:10 Gears Good information, but NOBODY has suggested shift points or MPH for 1-2 shift, 2-3 shift or 3-4 shift or rev limiter for 4:10 gears. Current shift points are 6400 for all shifts and rev limiter of 6700. MPH respectively is 40, 80 and 125. Please assist in this area please.
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Verdad Gallardo Re: Shift Points and Rev Limiter for 4:10 Gears stock points are alredy high so id say stock or -like -1 -2 -4 that is if your tring to stay under stock revlimiter if you want i did a post a while back about stock shift points that will tell you what rmp you are currently shifting at my off hand guess is about 6200-6300 which when i did that i liked it but i decidd to tone it down after reading the above articles i told about to be safe revlimit of 6200 with abut 200 rmp off of each shift that way you will be running stock shift points i defnitely would not go up anymore though with 411's your already kinda high
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Re: Shift Points and Rev Limiter for 4:10 Gears Jpr5690-Thanks for the post. I found the post you referred some time back which may give me a starting point on my car. I was hoping someone had more specific information for 4:10's so I would have a base to work from. However, I will try a 28 inch tire and see what happens--then I can adjust a little at a time and find the sweet spot I hope. If I can't find the sweet spot, then here come the 3:73's.
Re: Shift Points and Rev Limiter for 4:10 Gears stock settings are fine hypertech already compensates for the gear change also read your manual and it will say the revlimiter changing option is for "modfied valvetrains only"
Re: Shift Points and Rev Limiter for 4:10 Gears to answer your org question from what ive heard you can rev you3rd to like 6300 some even say 6500 fro racing but for daily street use stock 6000ish shift points would be reccomended for reliabilty issure by pushing it that bit further you are putting more wear on your valvetrain if it were me i wouldent go past say plus 7 or 8 mph on the 3 shift ive tried plus 9 mph with my 3.42s and i think it pulls better shifing round 6300 but most agree its not for every day use. peronally i keep on going over this question im kinda leaning back twards +3+6+9 for my car but it seems most would keep it at stock cause theres not much of a gain and there is a greater risk involved the more you pass the revlimiter which in this case 6400 revlimiter is needed finally keep in mind some of these peple might have a rev limit of 6700+ but never shifted above 6200 so they say its all good
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Re: Shift Points and Rev Limiter for 4:10 Gears Thanks JPR. Lets trade information and assist. Lets take it to the top. I need help. I know I have shared information and help at times and now I need help. Again, lets take it to the top. 
Re: Shift Points and Rev Limiter for 4:10 Gears hell lets make this the longets string ever! Im dying to get a conclusive answer to the same questions : what is the best setting for shift firmness and in rmps where is the best shift points for street use KEEPING LONG TERM RELIABILTY IN MIND!!! (OR IN OTHER WORDS IS SHIFTING AT 6300 RPM TO HIGH IF YOU PLAN OF KEEPING STOCK VALVETRAIN FOR LIKE 80K MILES
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Re: Shift Points and Rev Limiter for 4:10 Gears Well JPR--I was trying to change a rev limiter on 3-4 shift to see if I could do it. Anyway, after the change was made, I would hit the apply changes icon and nothing would happened. For some reason, it would go back to original setting--just my luck. Anyway, I think my PCM is locked from previous programming. Can anyone tell me how to tell whether it is locked or not. Well the saga continues. 
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Re: Shift Points and Rev Limiter for 4:10 Gears There isn't a set point where you can say "under this point you are okay, over and it's bye bye" - it's all progressive. The more you increase your RPM's, the more wear that will occur in your valvetrain. Personally I would change out the springs if you intend to rev that high. If you want to keep your valvetrain stock and intact for 80k miles I wouldn't recommend racing it at all - you will probably bend some push rods at least - and even if nothing happens, as you wear your springs they will loose pressure and you will hit float sooner and sooner.
Re; LS1 Edit problem - not sure what that is, you might try emailing Ken. If your pcm were locked you wouldn't be able to open the file at all - if you can open it and see your settings then you are fine in that respect.
For setting shift points it is really a trial and error method - cams, MAF, torque converters, tires, gears, etc. will all effect you the set points translate to real world points.
Re; LS1 Edit problem - not sure what that is, you might try emailing Ken. If your pcm were locked you wouldn't be able to open the file at all - if you can open it and see your settings then you are fine in that respect.
For setting shift points it is really a trial and error method - cams, MAF, torque converters, tires, gears, etc. will all effect you the set points translate to real world points.
