whitew01ws6

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Dave, iam sure alot of people still agree with me like i have said befor. we love the car, G8's kick *** i would love to have one. and alot of us to. when the REAL firehawks came out, the ones that had money bought them because they would be a collector car because they were the baddest of the baddest. the looks the NAME, no one is goin to buy this car for a collectors point. just wont happen.

i can see it now a third gen hawk, and a bunch of 4th gens sittin in some old dudes garage with a G8 firehawk.

little kid loves cars and says grandpa these are all firebirds. they can fly. but whats that over there, why is that called a firehawk its not a firebird.

grandpa replies simply " i dont know and you are right"


its a heritage and you or slp dont seem to realize that iam goin to stop posting in here now because it jsut frustrates me so much that this was a dick move. even with the 1 percent chance that the car name does get changed, wich deep down inside i know it wont. now ever time i think of firehawk ill think that O wait they made a 4 door firehawk that didnt sell. everyone that wanted to make a g8 faster went and bought a base model and modded them and made them faster than the firehawk. its simple we dont like the name but love the car what can you not understand about that.

a simple iam sorry but theres nothin i can do about it now could be in order but that still will not make it better.




PLUS. to the " a ledgend reborn" NO NOT reborn, destroyed.

long live the firehawk i just hope one day i can add a real firehawk one day to sit next to the ws6


i got it when they come out. if one is sittin on the lot outside ill go steal the stickers from it and put them on my bird, but its still not a firehawk. some one will go to buy a g8 and be like o this seems like a higher optioned g8




disgusted

whitew01ws6

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1 more thing... it says over 14,000 people have viewed, so we can say atleast 10,000 different people have looked at this.

how about we get all these people that have looked and havent posted to give us there opinion even if it just says HORRIBLE. POST it up then you can count how many people actually like it. then we can print this out and send thousands of copies to SLP in the mail protesting.

might be an idea, come on people

02HawkTA#195

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i think its a bad idea to call it a firehawk. it just does not make sense to call it that to me

wabmorgan

If you guys at SLP are thinking.... "It will sell becuase of the Firehawk name" .... I think you will be horribly WRONG!!!!!!!!! You are BOUND to get ANYONE whom is a Firebird, Trans Am, Formula, or even previous Firehawk owner to BOYCOTT the car because you violated the heritage of the "Firehawk" name.

You are on losing ground here.

I think it would be best for you to change the name to "SLP G8" and call it a day.

The car will sell better based upon the SLP heritage rather than a wrongfully utilized Firehawk name.

Off my now.... but this is one argument I'm sure I will find a consensus with most of my ls1tech.com brethren.

Rob

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Pretty sure it got its name from the tire. Just like the Comp TA got its name from the tire.

Nothing at all with being a Firebird.

If that was the naming convention back then, then I would assume that the Firehawk will be doing the same?

mrgto

Dealers making requests for it....that is downright laughable. They can't sell the G8's they have in inventory, what makes you think they are going to be able to sell a SC'd G8? Especially when they will mark up the cars as well.

This will be SLP's biggest flop. You would have been better off offering a package for the Cobalt SS or G5 or even the Solstice/Sky twins.

Vendetta

Does SLP sell Firehawk decals yet?

I can't wait to put one on my beat to **** daily driver subaru.

00hawk120

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i think we need a Yenko Aztec next

WSsick

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You guys at at SLP just made one stupid *** mistake. Calling it a Firehawk would aim at the original Firehawk owners, which are obvious disgusted with this abomination. seriously, SLP G8 like someone said would be 30X better for business and the situation. Advertise like "From the brand that brought you the Firebird Firehawk comes the SLP G8." Stupid but you see what I mean. That being said, they can't sell G8's as is, so this is just (even more) retarded.

Y2KFirehawk

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I couldn't agree more!

Skidd

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I was thinking the same thing, buy one for the performance and pull the badging off. Or just buy a GXP and build it the way you want. Ive always loved the firehawks and wanted to have one but in never worked out. Putting the firehawk name on the g8 doesnt fit looks and seems goofy to me.

Times have changes let the name go with the cars that brought it about. I understand it is a marketing thing to use the name but common sense to me says dont use it IT DOESNT FIT.

WE NEED A POLL FOR THIS THAT WAY SOLID NUBERS AGAINST IT ARE SEEN

SonicBoom

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David, this post exemplifies the exact problem in a nutshell. You have some guy emailing you saying he's really excited that you guys are modding a G8 and "to heck with the F-Body owners (because they don't think a 4-door can be a legitimate muscle car)." WRONG! We love the idea of SLP coming out with a modded G8.


*** The problem we have is with the "Firehawk" NAME being put on it; not the car itself ***


The guy that wrote you that email is obviously ignorant to that fact and you are seeing the mistake as a supporting reason to keep the name "Firehawk G8". You could name the car "VroomMaster 6000" and those same people would still be excited about the car. The fact is, those people do not care about the name "Firehawk"; we do. NOBODY is going to go into a dealership and buy the car just because of it's name; they will buy it for it's performance. In contrast, there are quite a few people who might NOT buy the car (that may have otherwise), just because you were dead-set on throwing the "Firehawk" name on it.

In closing, I'm not going to try and tell you how to run your company and I hope that you don't take offense to any of this but I see dark clouds on the horizon. Think back to Business School, David. Can you think of one instance where a company alienated their base consumer (over such a minor revision) with positive results? I can't; but I can recall a few that signaled major corporate "restructuring" or worse shortly thereafter.


Good Luck and Best Regards,

Jason

horist

i'm rebadging my Grand Prix as a Grand Prix GTP CompG WS6 Firehawk this weekend

PewterScreaminMach

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Dave,

I think you're misunderstanding the point we're getting at. We WANT a sick, super-high performance Pontiac G8. We WANT an SLP G8. We WANT it to get awesome coverage and ratings and reviews. And we WANT to own one. We just DON'T want it to have the name "Firehawk" thrown on it because it makes absolutely no sense. There is no correlation between the names "Firehawk" and "G8" like there is between "Firebird" and "Firehawk".

There are so many other awesome names or acronyms you could throw on this car that would have EVERYONE stoked about it's release and availability. Why choose a name that is getting such mixed reviews and doesn't actually apply to that car in the first place? If your statements are accurate, 3:1 may be decent feedback, but wouldn't you rather have 4:0?

Joe

PS - regardless of my disagreement with your decision, I AM intrigued by the fact that you are actively involved in this thread. It shows that you do care about the voice of the consumers who are going to be buying this car. But it also shows that this site and thread are probably more important to this topic than you are admitting, because if it wasn't, YOU wouldn't be here and keep coming back.

hawk584

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http://www.holden.com.au/www-holden/...y?vehicleid=15

Nine Ball

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Here are some links to other message boards. I'm not seeing this "overwhelming positive response" on any of them. Most tend to agree on the cheesy factor of using "Firehawk" on an otherwise nice car. Here are the links from a pretty diverse group of performance vehicle owners, for you to monitor this overwhelming positive reponse of 3 to 1 positives.

From G8 message boards (are these your target buyer?)
http://www.g8board.com/forums/showth...light=Firehawk
http://www.clubgp.com/newforum/tm.as...mode=1&smode=1

From Corvette sites (target income/age range buyer?)
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=2139389
http://www.digitalcorvettes.com/foru...46#post1235346

From Viper Club of America website:
http://forums.viperclub.org/driven/6...wk-4-door.html

From pro-touring musclecar website, average age range of 35-50:
http://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48086

chaman

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I think it is more of a negative 1:3 positives...it is overwhelming though!

The car world seems to be disintegrating nowadays and this "Firehawk" clearly reflects that...

frcefed98

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Here is another from LS2.com where they love the BMW's and have a base of young professionals that are in the target demographic that dave has listed.

http://www.ls2.com/forums/showthread...hreadid=667918

Seems they don't care for the idea either.

triggerjerk

Good point.

Also, will the G8 Firehawk come with Firehawk tires to justify the name?

I can see myself buying a GXP but I think a s/c G8 will be too pricey for a poncho.

And if we are so off base for criticizing the G8 Firehawk, SLP should just release all of the info NOW. Call our bluff.

WSsick

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haha thats great. dont forget the SS, everyone has that now!


that is bullshit, b/c the g8s are not selling. i want to see proof of this 3:1 ratio. seriously, i really do. unless you have only got 1 email from an f body owner. give me anything up to 99 emails and i will personally read all of them and garuntee that there is not 3:1 unless you send me only the ones you want. im sure ls1tech can change that ratio if you wish.


im calling you out on this one. this is BS. how would he have just heard about it and simultaneously knew that the f body crowd was up in arms? answer me that.


Sonicboom said it right, its the Firehawk name not the modded G8 that is our problem. SLP G8 or something new and exciting. just not Firehawk.