GTOdave

ok well i wann get the 04 gto cammed ...but was wondering if i was gonna have to get bigger heads also..and was also wondering what cammed and or heads would you guys thing would be good for me because im still gonna drive it around during the summer some..i was thinking the ms3 camm but not too sure..

Rob

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I would recommend Ed Curtis of FTI. He'll hook you up based on what you want out of the car. Go to LS1GTO.com and you'll find many happy people.

svede1212

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^^^what he said. my cam from Ed is awesome and will kick most of those bigger bumpy sticks

FryZ71

Word...my H/C are from FTI...top notch work.

batboy

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You can do a cam only with the 04, but if you at least upgrade to stock casting 243 (LS2/LS6) heads, you'll really wake up that LS1. The MS3 is pretty big for a small cube LS1. If you are looking at the Texas Speed cams, you might really check out the Torquer V2 instead.

ShoddyHog

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Don't have to upgrade the heads, but you can make some good gains replacing the 241s. Since you don't have to pull the heads to install the cam, you could do the cam now and decide on heads later.

+1 on Ed Curtis @ FTI.

Gerry

GTOdave

ok well im prolly going to get a cam and not heads yet..i just dontknow what type of cam to get..i heard good thing bout msc but then i heard it too big of a cam for that block without getting heads...but i was at the track and TA had it on his ls1 wihtout heads..

Summerwolf

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Here is a copy of a PM with me and predator-Z

GTO is a heavy car, so trq is one aspect you should look at instead of peak numbers.

230/230 .612/.592 111+2 LSA

is what I recommend. It acts bigger than it is, is a reverse split at .200 lifts so big trq output, rvs till 6600 with a powercurve that is almost linear.


the specs are

intake lobe 3016r
Exhaust lobe 3725r
111 LSA
109 ICL




This guy knows his **** and I've always wanted to try that cam....everyone that runs it is 100% happy.

Having said that I went the EDC route and have a SSHT and my car performs but I think it needs a bigger cam after driving it for a while....

GTOdave

well i think im gonna just get a cam for now and do heads later..like nexxt summer..what do u guys think about comp camsss?

Summerwolf

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Go with that one I listed above, it works with stock heads and it would be a great cam from this car....it is a grind from comp cams, you just have to give them the specs.

breze84

With mods in sig im making 407/390 with stock 241's and stock LS6 intake.....

SIC GTO

Get the ms3!!! mines goin in next month

GTOdave

an ms3 with the stock heads???

GTOdave

and where can i get one of these ms3 cams or should i go with the ms4??? wats the difference..and how much will they run me

breze84

I would go with the 228R if i were you but its all up to you on what you want, The 228R is known to make more power than a lot of the larger cams, The TQ on my car is a monster, at 2500rpm im already making 358RWTQ

batboy

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The MS3 (Magic Stick V.3) is sold by Texas Speed. The main difference with the V.4 is the intake lift is a lot higher on the V.4 which puts more stress on the valve springs. The MS3 is a fairly large cam for the LS1 with stock heads. I personally think you'd be happier with the Torquer V.2 or like Breze84 says, the 228R. I also highly recommend their cam package 2 located towards the bottom of the webpage (see link). The kit comes complete with cam, valve springs, and hardened pushrods.

http://www.texas-speed.com/shop/cate...MID=9&catid=44

SIC GTO

True those cams do make good power but my friend with a 228r is stepping it up and I hear of lots of people that wish they would have just gotten a bigger cam after they already put there smaller one in!
I will be running the MS3 with stock heads in my DAILY DRIVER until I get the prc stage 2.5 LS6's, I bought the cam package from tsp like batboy is talking about.
With the stock heads you will get the 7.4 pushrods.

breze84

The 228R is not a small cam by any means.... 228/228 .588 .588 112 / 114lsa, That a decent size cam.....

SIC GTO

yeah it is a good size cam but when you're comparing it to a ms3 ms4 torquer 3 t-rex vrx6 and some others its kinda small

Rob

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Gotta graph that you can post?