3000? Ha! No, not close to 3000. More like 3600-ish.

 

I think he is saying 3000 is what GM SHOULD have desinged it to weigh instead of 3600.

 

Thats kinda funny how F-body guys' next gen f-body is really just a G8.

 

Then we can have 4th genFbody Vs GTO/5th gen fbody debates!!!

 

this thread is nothing but people saying the same things with the same experience in which their car is better than the other, with the exception of a few posts and a few people that have owned both.


on a side note, i have begun the horrible waiting & saving process so that ill be the owner of a 5th gen z28, if all goes according to plan. (2012 model year correct?)

 

my 1993 lt1 camaro with a 2002 camaro ss front end has smoked 5.7L gtos like nothing and my cars auto and all the gto's ive raced were 6 speeds but id have to say that 6.0L gto halls some *** and i know its faster than some of the ls1s like a 98 ls1 only runs 13.8's in the quarter so go figure but the 2002 ss 35th anv runs like 13.2's in the quarter so go figure the 6.0L will outrun some of the ls1's stock and lt1s but not the 5.7L gto its slow power to weight ratio

 

please never post again.

 

my bone stock 1976 camero with 1979 z28 fenders and 305 two barrel carb crushes lt1 f bodies like a damn monster truck except for those lt4's which are pretty quick and run 10.5's in the quarter because all the new airbags and computers add so much weight that they are pigs unless they are an auto with an ls1 wannabe poser front nose then it's pretty close but six speeds are no problem and it will eat alot of ls1's besides the stripper police edition cameros

 

okay lt1 your smoking crack hands down hate to say it...but no lt1 has ever touched me not even close....so please put down the crack pipe

 

this thread sucks

 

I agree. It started out giving and sharing opinions/experiences but now it's a pissing contest.

 

Shhhh...

FWIW, The Camaro isn't going to be a simple badge-slap modification like the GTOs were. It is engineered to be a different vehicle inside and out, though it will be just like that sedan-boat G8/Commodore at the heart.

Hopefully it will be everything that's great about 4th gens and the GTO in one package. How's that sound?

 

Agree.

Nothing like trying to say how great your car is when you can't even spell it correctly.

 

Yeah I think that would be loved throughout the F-body/GTO/Vette crowds. Depending on what people are looking for via performance and daily driving needs. To fit them.

But I highly doubt it'll happen. Just based on reputation. Reputation regarding to GM how there are so many different aspects as well as the cars. Yes they have to do this into appeal to different markets but they lack of looking imbetween the lines if you will. Setteling in the middle. Also known as what you just said a 2010 Camaro with a GTO type package.

I agree with you though and why you said this.

F-body like looks/styling, GTO interior comfort, Corvette power and handling. Best of all worlds, I think most would agree. I doubt the new Camaro will be anything of the sort it'll have its draw backs somewhere just like every other car. But what car doesnt, stock or modified.

I would love it to be what I described but I just can't see this happening.

I know you said this comment as a means to settle something.

BUT! This is just my opinion and my thoughts.

 

You can't win everyone over. The GTO guys hate it because it's not a GTO. The 4th gen guys hate it because it's not a 4th gen.

What does separate it is the amount of R&D going into the car. The GTO was given to us rather quickly, but so were all of the inherit Monaro problems. I think GM is going to make this thing right. Will there be faults? Yes, but it's going to be a great car.

 

Actually thinking about it more. There was speculation about this car for a while. Despite the promo in Transformers. Prior to that also. GM are in debt huge amounts. I think they are wanting this car to help pull them threw that issue.

The GTO was an easy fix/replacement for GM in regards to the muscle car market. (NO one debate this: 04-06 GTO not a muscle car; been covered, opinionated topic) The GTO is what's supposed to replace the F-body. Did it do a good job? No as far as sales. Performance, arguable depending on how serious performance you want, Pros and Cons, or if your going to modify the car. Relative, there are easier ways of acomplishing things.

I hope it is a great car, but I can't see it improving that much from the Ls1 F-body. Time will tell.

 

i'm your huckleberry....

 

In light of this, I have a few things to add. GTO > F-body...PERIOD. JMHO.

I have owned so many F-bodies that I stopped counting. The build quality sucked on almost all of them. I liked my '79 WS6, but that is a different story. My GTO on the other hand does not rattle, squeek, clunk, bang, or whine. The doors shut solid every time, and don't sag. I have seen some low mileage F-bodies that are well on their way to a salvage yard already. I also have an '04 BMW 330ci, and the Goat compares nicely in build quality, handling, and comfort. I have raced heavily modded LT1's, as well as several LS1 F-bodies, and have no trouble laying the smack down on any of them. I think either car responds well to mods, so we won't even go there.

All you F-body fans prepare for this....the new Zeta chassis that the Camaro is going to be built on is already in production....in the G8, and was developed by Holden....

Anyways, not to **** anyone off, just my .02 worth.

 

Hmmmm....

Define 'smack down'..

13.19 @ 108.59mph, 2.152 60' (tapping limiter on the 2~3 shift, full tank of gas, full weight) and I am bone stock.

 

Nice pissing contest.