Anybody with experience using thermostat for external oil cooler?
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I'm considering a stand alone oil cooler for my 'V. Oil temps are getting a little high on the track.
I've spoken with several people who voice concerns about losses in oil pressure through the thermostat due to pressure drop. Nobody can give me specific numers... so I'm asking anybody with experience to speak up!![Cheers!!](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_cheers.gif)
The ls6 is known for losing oil pressure during sustained high-G corners... so I'm a little wary of causing any more oiling issues.
I'm considering a Mocal (https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...r-adapter.html) or Earls spin on style.
Thanks!
Mark
I've spoken with several people who voice concerns about losses in oil pressure through the thermostat due to pressure drop. Nobody can give me specific numers... so I'm asking anybody with experience to speak up!
![Cheers!!](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_cheers.gif)
The ls6 is known for losing oil pressure during sustained high-G corners... so I'm a little wary of causing any more oiling issues.
I'm considering a Mocal (https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...r-adapter.html) or Earls spin on style.
Thanks!
Mark
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I'm considering a stand alone oil cooler for my 'V. Oil temps are getting a little high on the track.
I've spoken with several people who voice concerns about losses in oil pressure through the thermostat due to pressure drop. Nobody can give me specific numers... so I'm asking anybody with experience to speak up!![Cheers!!](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_cheers.gif)
The ls6 is known for losing oil pressure during sustained high-G corners... so I'm a little wary of causing any more oiling issues.
I'm considering a Mocal (https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...r-adapter.html) or Earls spin on style.
Thanks!
Mark
I've spoken with several people who voice concerns about losses in oil pressure through the thermostat due to pressure drop. Nobody can give me specific numers... so I'm asking anybody with experience to speak up!
![Cheers!!](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_cheers.gif)
The ls6 is known for losing oil pressure during sustained high-G corners... so I'm a little wary of causing any more oiling issues.
I'm considering a Mocal (https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...r-adapter.html) or Earls spin on style.
Thanks!
Mark
or the Katech is also an option http://store.katechengines.com/bille...apter-p37.aspx You will need the inline thermostat. With 10AN plumbing, pressure drop should not be a big problem. My car is in the shop as we speak having the Lingenfelter unit and cooler installed.
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Interesting... are you sure the mocal won't fit?
The lingenfelter piece looks nice, I may go that route. I noticed the Katech unit does not have provisions for an oil temp sensor.
I'll have to do a little research on in-line thermostats.
Thanks! Any other info out there from anybody?
Mark
The lingenfelter piece looks nice, I may go that route. I noticed the Katech unit does not have provisions for an oil temp sensor.
I'll have to do a little research on in-line thermostats.
Thanks! Any other info out there from anybody?
Mark
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Mark, call LG Motorsports.
They have a custom CNCed block that attaches directly above the stock oil filter, on the side of the block.
It has two -10AN ports and a metric port for a temp probe.
I used it on my LS1 based Trans AM track car I had several years ago. With some creative elbows and Aeroquip swivel fittings, I was able to run both lines forward, next to the block with FLP headers.
As far a cooler, Setrab. The best of the best, IMHO.
On my road race LT1, I have a Setrab 9"x9" cooler with a ducted fan. Its a small package, which is vital on a CTS-V.
Before the cooler, I have no clue what my oil temps were because the gauge only goes to 310*. Now temps run between 260-280, depending upon ambient temps and length of the race.
As far as a thermostat goes, you live in east Texas and therefore not necessary in this area. On those cold, icy days, I doubt you drive the V very much any way. For two of three weeks out of the year, you might need it. On those days, just baby it till temps begin to come up.
Are you doing Harris Hill then end of the month? I'm taking my recently acquired 06 V out there to see how it does. I typically run Red group and have instructed a couple times for Rick. But this time, I asked for yellow. Not planning on flogging the car too bad.
I installed HPS pads and SRF fluid for the weekend.
They have a custom CNCed block that attaches directly above the stock oil filter, on the side of the block.
It has two -10AN ports and a metric port for a temp probe.
I used it on my LS1 based Trans AM track car I had several years ago. With some creative elbows and Aeroquip swivel fittings, I was able to run both lines forward, next to the block with FLP headers.
As far a cooler, Setrab. The best of the best, IMHO.
On my road race LT1, I have a Setrab 9"x9" cooler with a ducted fan. Its a small package, which is vital on a CTS-V.
Before the cooler, I have no clue what my oil temps were because the gauge only goes to 310*. Now temps run between 260-280, depending upon ambient temps and length of the race.
As far as a thermostat goes, you live in east Texas and therefore not necessary in this area. On those cold, icy days, I doubt you drive the V very much any way. For two of three weeks out of the year, you might need it. On those days, just baby it till temps begin to come up.
Are you doing Harris Hill then end of the month? I'm taking my recently acquired 06 V out there to see how it does. I typically run Red group and have instructed a couple times for Rick. But this time, I asked for yellow. Not planning on flogging the car too bad.
I installed HPS pads and SRF fluid for the weekend.
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Interesting... are you sure the mocal won't fit?
The lingenfelter piece looks nice, I may go that route. I noticed the Katech unit does not have provisions for an oil temp sensor.
I'll have to do a little research on in-line thermostats.
Thanks! Any other info out there from anybody?
Mark
The lingenfelter piece looks nice, I may go that route. I noticed the Katech unit does not have provisions for an oil temp sensor.
I'll have to do a little research on in-line thermostats.
Thanks! Any other info out there from anybody?
Mark
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Are you doing Harris Hill then end of the month? I'm taking my recently acquired 06 V out there to see how it does. I typically run Red group and have instructed a couple times for Rick. But this time, I asked for yellow. Not planning on flogging the car too bad.
I installed HPS pads and SRF fluid for the weekend.
I'm not going to make it this month... the 'V is still down from my last track event (cracked wheel, still waiting for the replacement), plus it looks like my travel schedule this month wouldn't allow it anyways. I really enjoyed my first event last month (green group) and plan to make at least 3 per year from now on, I'm hooked!
While I'm deciding what to do about oil cooling and also waiting on the new wheel; I'm installing a short shifter and the grey Creative Steel motor mounts.
Since I've got ya'll in this thread... can anybody give me some advice on tire selection? I'm running KDW's, but they didn't really perform well on the track. Also, do you run regular alignment settings on the track, or are you doing anything special?
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I'd reallly like to go for a ride with you sometime on the track.... I'd like to see what a 'V is capable of with a good driver!
I'm not going to make it this month... the 'V is still down from my last track event (cracked wheel, still waiting for the replacement), plus it looks like my travel schedule this month wouldn't allow it anyways. I really enjoyed my first event last month (green group) and plan to make at least 3 per year from now on, I'm hooked!
While I'm deciding what to do about oil cooling and also waiting on the new wheel; I'm installing a short shifter and the grey Creative Steel motor mounts.
Since I've got ya'll in this thread... can anybody give me some advice on tire selection? I'm running KDW's, but they didn't really perform well on the track. Also, do you run regular alignment settings on the track, or are you doing anything special?
I'm not going to make it this month... the 'V is still down from my last track event (cracked wheel, still waiting for the replacement), plus it looks like my travel schedule this month wouldn't allow it anyways. I really enjoyed my first event last month (green group) and plan to make at least 3 per year from now on, I'm hooked!
While I'm deciding what to do about oil cooling and also waiting on the new wheel; I'm installing a short shifter and the grey Creative Steel motor mounts.
Since I've got ya'll in this thread... can anybody give me some advice on tire selection? I'm running KDW's, but they didn't really perform well on the track. Also, do you run regular alignment settings on the track, or are you doing anything special?
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I'm not planning on changing alignment specs nor am I gonna flog the V ... too hard. ![Winky](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_wink.gif)
I've never liked "short" shifters. I installed a B&M shifter. I'm hoping it loosens up after a while.
Are there groups that allow passengers? I thought all that went away. But I too am interested to see what the V can do in stock trim.
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I've never liked "short" shifters. I installed a B&M shifter. I'm hoping it loosens up after a while.
Are there groups that allow passengers? I thought all that went away. But I too am interested to see what the V can do in stock trim.
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Red's and instructors were allowed to take passengers when I went to motorsport ranch last month. I don't know if that was the exception to the general rule though.
I rode with a guy in an essentially stock Corvette and was EXTREMELY impressed with what he was able to do with that car.![Hail](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_hail.gif)
Keep us posted on your track day results!
-Mark
I rode with a guy in an essentially stock Corvette and was EXTREMELY impressed with what he was able to do with that car.
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Keep us posted on your track day results!
-Mark
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Are you doing Harris Hill then end of the month? I'm taking my recently acquired 06 V out there to see how it does. I typically run Red group and have instructed a couple times for Rick. But this time, I asked for yellow. Not planning on flogging the car too bad.
I installed HPS pads and SRF fluid for the weekend.
I installed HPS pads and SRF fluid for the weekend.
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H2 is a fun and easy to learn track. Speeds aren't too high and its actually pretty easy on the car.
A friend and I went out there in his Vette and we took turns during sessions. Hot lapping his street car in July and it never showed any signs of abuse.
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That Mocal unit will not fit with headers. Spin on can be a fit problem as well. I wound up going with the Lingenfelter piece http://www.lingenfelter.com/mm5/merc...gory_Code=C186
or the Katech is also an option http://store.katechengines.com/bille...apter-p37.aspx You will need the inline thermostat. With 10AN plumbing, pressure drop should not be a big problem. My car is in the shop as we speak having the Lingenfelter unit and cooler installed.
or the Katech is also an option http://store.katechengines.com/bille...apter-p37.aspx You will need the inline thermostat. With 10AN plumbing, pressure drop should not be a big problem. My car is in the shop as we speak having the Lingenfelter unit and cooler installed.
A 60* swivel fitting on the outlet and a 90* swivel fitting on the inlet will route the lines forward easy enough.
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Serpentnoir,
Been 3 months since you listed your therm for sale. Wondering if you got rid of it yet. I'm interested in buying if your still selling let me know a price and we can set something up email me thanks.
Been 3 months since you listed your therm for sale. Wondering if you got rid of it yet. I'm interested in buying if your still selling let me know a price and we can set something up email me thanks.
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I went with one from a 6.0 HD truck. You have to buy adapters to connect the AN lines to it. I have a fan on my cooler which has T stat to control the fan. My oil temps now run 200-250 on the street. I haven't run a open track event in a long time.