Drifting a turn better?
10-01-2005, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by chaman
my point exactly. Drifting is to me more of a fleeting fashion than anything. It will be over before you know it. As it becomes less popular in american crowds less sponsors will be interested.
is this also why FOX and ESPN are wanting to do drift events next year?
myth busted, sorry.
10-01-2005, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Heatmaker
Drifting is 
okay....
When did going as fast as you can around corners with exquisit and superb TRACTION ever go out of style?
It's fun to do... it's fun to watch... but it's way over rated. It's hardly a useful technique.
2) show me where someone is debating that it is a useful teqnique that everyone needs to know, whe in reality its a fun release vs goign laps at a time in the same boring manner benig held back by the limits of your car
Being one of the Top 10 Gran Turismo 4 Drifters in America, I feel have the credibility to say this.
and i think everyone will agree that what you just said is really gay.
thus this woudl be one of the gayest statements i have read in my life. some vids would be cool though , also what setups are you running on what cars? i just started driftign on gt4 during hurricane rita about a week ago, i cant link courses laps at a time on every course like gt3 but im getting there, i dont think im hitting the setups correct though, gt4 doesnt seem to like realistic car setups in relation to drifting (i.e. a good grip car doesnt drift well)
Besides like everything else the Japanese stole the idea of drifting from us.... Americans have been drifting for years... except we called it Midget Car racing.
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10-01-2005, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by NataSS Inc
Prosocutions exhibit A: Why drifting is ******* gay.
I ruL3z @t dR1fTiNG yO!
I ruL3z @t dR1fTiNG yO!
10-01-2005, 06:10 PM
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Anyone that hates driftn in nutn but a lil bitch.
Seriously, Why would you care otherwise? It iz what it iz. It aint some jap thing or an asian thang. Its a car thang. All about lettn it all hang out. And havn some fun.
Seriously, Why would you care otherwise? It iz what it iz. It aint some jap thing or an asian thang. Its a car thang. All about lettn it all hang out. And havn some fun.
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10-01-2005, 07:01 PM
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mitchntx,
I expect there are a lot of people on this board that share your sentiments toward drifting. But to their credit, they are leaving this thread and others like it to those who are giving it a chance. You have associated Drifting with the likes of synchronized swimming and x-games, but of those sports, you are only taking time out of your day to vocalize your rude and presumptuous opinions about drifting. Why? Why not branch out and thug it up on some synchronized swimming boards and free-syle scateboarding boards and rant about why you think THEIR sport is gay and not worth doing? But you don't, probably because at some level, i hope, you respect anyone who truely enjoys what they are doing. It's obvious that anyone who participates in drifting is doing it because it is fun to them, but why can't you leave it at that? Why take the time and yell "drifting is gay!" every chance you get on these boards when there are apparently so many other sports and activities out there that you hold equally "gay" or even more so? Don't those deserve your attention as well? What makes drifting so special and deserving of so much of your attention? The sport of drifting does need to concern people such as yourself, and a reasonable person would just leave it alone, no matter how convinient it is to spout his animosity.
You clearly don't appreciate drifting. That's fine. But you are making no effort to fully understand the sport before standing on your soap box. That is not fine. So please, leave drifting to those that appreciate the sport or are willing to give it a chance, just as you leave X-games to the people that appreciate those sports. There's no sense in trying to make peoples' minds up for them before they have a chance to consider it for themselves.
On the other hand, there are people that have made it their agenda to crush the sport of drifting because they and their "proper" car racing ideals somehow feal threatened by the growing motorsport. This mentality is also known as xenophobia. Are you one of those people?
Derrick
I expect there are a lot of people on this board that share your sentiments toward drifting. But to their credit, they are leaving this thread and others like it to those who are giving it a chance. You have associated Drifting with the likes of synchronized swimming and x-games, but of those sports, you are only taking time out of your day to vocalize your rude and presumptuous opinions about drifting. Why? Why not branch out and thug it up on some synchronized swimming boards and free-syle scateboarding boards and rant about why you think THEIR sport is gay and not worth doing? But you don't, probably because at some level, i hope, you respect anyone who truely enjoys what they are doing. It's obvious that anyone who participates in drifting is doing it because it is fun to them, but why can't you leave it at that? Why take the time and yell "drifting is gay!" every chance you get on these boards when there are apparently so many other sports and activities out there that you hold equally "gay" or even more so? Don't those deserve your attention as well? What makes drifting so special and deserving of so much of your attention? The sport of drifting does need to concern people such as yourself, and a reasonable person would just leave it alone, no matter how convinient it is to spout his animosity.
You clearly don't appreciate drifting. That's fine. But you are making no effort to fully understand the sport before standing on your soap box. That is not fine. So please, leave drifting to those that appreciate the sport or are willing to give it a chance, just as you leave X-games to the people that appreciate those sports. There's no sense in trying to make peoples' minds up for them before they have a chance to consider it for themselves.
On the other hand, there are people that have made it their agenda to crush the sport of drifting because they and their "proper" car racing ideals somehow feal threatened by the growing motorsport. This mentality is also known as xenophobia. Are you one of those people?
Derrick
10-01-2005, 07:54 PM
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is this why GM and mopar both have factory backed programs since the beginning, yet in road racing they are pulling the plug left and right on programs? ford jumped in this year as well.
is this also why FOX and ESPN are wanting to do drift events next year?
myth busted, sorry.
is this also why FOX and ESPN are wanting to do drift events next year?
myth busted, sorry.
Same reasons why GM has a Cobalt 
and Mopar has a SRT4 ...TRENDS!! Got it?? Does this means they would last??? You are a pitiful joke...get a life... 
Face it...a lot of people find it BORING.......as are your "down the thoat" reasons to justify your sport as the ****...My God people....funny how some guys (that aparently cant deal with criticism) insist on over-explaining how serious and wonderful the world of drifting is....just making a fool of yourselves...get it in your "drifting" brain.....some dont give a drifting **** of your sport....this is my last post in this stupid thread.
10-01-2005, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by chaman
Really?? According to whom....you??? Have you ever heard of marketing?? Same reasons why GM has a Cobalt and Mopar has a SRT4 ...TRENDS!! Got it?? Does this means they would last???
Originally Posted by chaman
some dont give a drifting **** of your sport....
Originally Posted by chaman
this is my last post in this stupid thread.
10-01-2005, 08:53 PM
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First of, your post count of 2 and them being only in this thread says a lot about your motivation for being here. LS1Tech is about those that contribute.
Your post is very articulate and thoughtful. It wasn't condeming nor attacking. I appreciate that. If you go back and read my posts, I don't think I attacked any individual, just posted my opinions about the exhibition called drifting.
I don't post about ice skating, synchronized swimming or X-games because quite frankly, those folks don't come into my "backyard" and try and promote it in a road racing forum. It's not road racing ...
If this were posted in the General Discussion area or similar, it wouldn't merit my attention.
And to be consistent, I do the same thing to street racers who "identify" with road racers. I feel it brings me down ...
I would have to go back and look, but I don't think I ever used the word "gay" ... if I did, that is atypical of me.
And, for what it's worth, I have competed in lots of competition where "drifting" was the norm. I raced econo late models at dirt tracks all over east Texas. The difference being, it didn't require a 3rd party to decide who won. It was me looking for a checkered flag ... so, I DO appreciate drifting when it's done in a real competitive environment.
And, if you go back and read closely, that is the part of drifting I do not like. It's a judged event. It's not so much about skill, but rather presentation. What's "competitive" about that?
Did you guys tell Dean I said hello?
Your post is very articulate and thoughtful. It wasn't condeming nor attacking. I appreciate that. If you go back and read my posts, I don't think I attacked any individual, just posted my opinions about the exhibition called drifting.
I don't post about ice skating, synchronized swimming or X-games because quite frankly, those folks don't come into my "backyard" and try and promote it in a road racing forum. It's not road racing ...
If this were posted in the General Discussion area or similar, it wouldn't merit my attention.
And to be consistent, I do the same thing to street racers who "identify" with road racers. I feel it brings me down ...
I would have to go back and look, but I don't think I ever used the word "gay" ... if I did, that is atypical of me.
And, for what it's worth, I have competed in lots of competition where "drifting" was the norm. I raced econo late models at dirt tracks all over east Texas. The difference being, it didn't require a 3rd party to decide who won. It was me looking for a checkered flag ... so, I DO appreciate drifting when it's done in a real competitive environment.
And, if you go back and read closely, that is the part of drifting I do not like. It's a judged event. It's not so much about skill, but rather presentation. What's "competitive" about that?
Did you guys tell Dean I said hello?
Originally Posted by drz
mitchntx,
I expect there are a lot of people on this board that share your sentiments toward drifting. But to their credit, they are leaving this thread and others like it to those who are giving it a chance. You have associated Drifting with the likes of synchronized swimming and x-games, but of those sports, you are only taking time out of your day to vocalize your rude and presumptuous opinions about drifting. Why? Why not branch out and thug it up on some synchronized swimming boards and free-syle scateboarding boards and rant about why you think THEIR sport is gay and not worth doing? But you don't, probably because at some level, i hope, you respect anyone who truely enjoys what they are doing. It's obvious that anyone who participates in drifting is doing it because it is fun to them, but why can't you leave it at that? Why take the time and yell "drifting is gay!" every chance you get on these boards when there are apparently so many other sports and activities out there that you hold equally "gay" or even more so? Don't those deserve your attention as well? What makes drifting so special and deserving of so much of your attention? The sport of drifting does need to concern people such as yourself, and a reasonable person would just leave it alone, no matter how convinient it is to spout his animosity.
You clearly don't appreciate drifting. That's fine. But you are making no effort to fully understand the sport before standing on your soap box. That is not fine. So please, leave drifting to those that appreciate the sport or are willing to give it a chance, just as you leave X-games to the people that appreciate those sports. There's no sense in trying to make peoples' minds up for them before they have a chance to consider it for themselves.
On the other hand, there are people that have made it their agenda to crush the sport of drifting because they and their "proper" car racing ideals somehow feal threatened by the growing motorsport. This mentality is also known as xenophobia. Are you one of those people?
Derrick
I expect there are a lot of people on this board that share your sentiments toward drifting. But to their credit, they are leaving this thread and others like it to those who are giving it a chance. You have associated Drifting with the likes of synchronized swimming and x-games, but of those sports, you are only taking time out of your day to vocalize your rude and presumptuous opinions about drifting. Why? Why not branch out and thug it up on some synchronized swimming boards and free-syle scateboarding boards and rant about why you think THEIR sport is gay and not worth doing? But you don't, probably because at some level, i hope, you respect anyone who truely enjoys what they are doing. It's obvious that anyone who participates in drifting is doing it because it is fun to them, but why can't you leave it at that? Why take the time and yell "drifting is gay!" every chance you get on these boards when there are apparently so many other sports and activities out there that you hold equally "gay" or even more so? Don't those deserve your attention as well? What makes drifting so special and deserving of so much of your attention? The sport of drifting does need to concern people such as yourself, and a reasonable person would just leave it alone, no matter how convinient it is to spout his animosity.
You clearly don't appreciate drifting. That's fine. But you are making no effort to fully understand the sport before standing on your soap box. That is not fine. So please, leave drifting to those that appreciate the sport or are willing to give it a chance, just as you leave X-games to the people that appreciate those sports. There's no sense in trying to make peoples' minds up for them before they have a chance to consider it for themselves.
On the other hand, there are people that have made it their agenda to crush the sport of drifting because they and their "proper" car racing ideals somehow feal threatened by the growing motorsport. This mentality is also known as xenophobia. Are you one of those people?
Derrick
10-02-2005, 12:09 PM
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Did you guys tell Dean I said hello?
First of, your post count of 2 and them being only in this thread says a lot about your motivation for being here. LS1Tech is about those that contribute.
FWIW this forum has been a life-saver for us. We've been out of town at events, when something broke - and been able to get info and help for others to get us back in the competition.
We don't tend to start drifting threads, but we will chime in when we see one.
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10-05-2005, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by mitchntx
First of, your post count of 2 and them being only in this thread says a lot about your motivation for being here. LS1Tech is about those that contribute.
Originally Posted by mitchntx
I don't post about ice skating, synchronized swimming or X-games because quite frankly, those folks don't come into my "backyard" and try and promote it in a road racing forum. It's not road racing ...
Originally Posted by mitchntx
If this were posted in the General Discussion area or similar, it wouldn't merit my attention.
I'm also not following you on the General Discussion thing. Drifting is a motorsport with cars being driven to their limits around corners. While it's not racing, neither are DE events. But IMO, the two motorsports share a great deal in common, like the importance of car set-up, racing line, braking zones, tire choice, and driver safety. Wouldn’t it make sense to exchange knowledge and experience on these elements in a forum frequented by people most familiar?
Originally Posted by mitchntx
And to be consistent, I do the same thing to street racers who "identify" with road racers. I feel it brings me down ...
Originally Posted by mitchntx
I would have to go back and look, but I don't think I ever used the word "gay" ... if I did, that is atypical of me.
Originally Posted by mitchntx
And, if you go back and read closely, that is the part of drifting I do not like. It's a judged event.
Originally Posted by mitchntx
It's not so much about skill, but rather presentation. What's "competitive" about that?
10-06-2005, 03:47 PM
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My eyes were open, but I can't see anything for the judges holding up 9.5, 9.0 and 10.0, which are respectable scores.
If you read my post in context and not invent things or embellish, I never equated drifting to street racing, just that I have a similar disdain for street racing.
I don't like raw oysters either, would you somehow make a long leap to connect those. It would be interesting to see how far your mind "drifts" to achieve it.
I am speaking from experience. I ran Econo Late models at a local dirt track. Ever watch a spring car? Now THAT's drifting ...
My eyes were open, but I can't see anything for the judges holding up 9.5, 9.0 and 10.0, which are respectable scores.
If you read my post in context and not invent things or embellish, I never equated drifting to street racing, just that I have a similar disdain for street racing.
I don't like raw oysters either, would you somehow make a long leap to connect those. It would be interesting to see how far your mind "drifts" to achieve it.
So you are saying that there's no skill in presentation? Sorry, but until you can speak otherwise from experience, there is serious skill needed to simply navigate a technical drift course in a consistent manner, and that speaks nothing of "presentation".
10-06-2005, 10:22 PM
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Drifting is just a different sport. Not faster through the turns, that's all. People do it for show and to have fun. It's a hobby, and it does take some sort of skill. Especially when your tires are screaming for mercy. But the point about the car reaching it's limits, I'd have to disagree with that. Once the car is sliding, you are past the car's limits and when the car drifts, the driver is merely controlling the slide to avoid a catastrophe.