Blown383LS1

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big hammer

Irunelevens

Looks about right for an automatic convertible. The NPI Mustangs never should have existed.

*Tips Fedora*

You said LBO LS1, chief. The car that Hio is referring to, made around 340rwhp, IIRC. Right in line with these cars.

5.7stroker

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A typical race between a stock LS1 F body and a stock 2v GT was 13.2 vs 13.9. Some guys paid $4k more for their 99 Z28 and almost $10k more if they opted for the SS or the ram air.

I certainly wouldn't drop even $1k into a 2v platform these days because for the $ it wouldn't make sense, but back then when the car was new, it was some good fun.

Nothing like being a college student in a brand new 1999 Mustang GT looking at brand new ls1's in my rearview pulling buss lengths with the same amount of money spent. It happened, and it was impressive to any ls1 owner I went up against (at that time)

That being said, should someone be impressed by a 99 Z28's with gears, stall, LTs, tire, and bottle beating bolt on 2v 99 GT's on the bottle? "I spent $4k more on my Z with the same bolt ons as you and it's faster?"

That is to be expected.... unless you are spending $30k+ on a 99 Cobra back in the day that was slow as ****. I felt so bad for those guys...

Thing is, you don't even need a power adder on a 2v 4.6 to run low 11's...
A 383 long block and throw on a bullet intake...

Here's a vid of the guy's car that tuned my car running 11's on a NA 2v:

*Tips Fedora*

I used to do the exact same thing (pull buses) to 2v and 3v's in my first GTP that I modded about 10 years ago. I don't see your point. 2v's do not typically run 13.9 either. More like 14.4. And an LS1 will **** all over them from any roll speed. After 70 mph it's gets real ugly real fast for the 2v.

Nick.H

Why can't you just accept the fact that he beat some LS1 cars in a mustang back in the day? It's not that odd.

Irunelevens

The conditions where a 5spd 2V runs a 14.4 would put a 6spd LS1 at ~13.5. It's easier to just say that the 2V is a high 13s capable car, and the LS1 is a high 12s capable car.

slowZZZ

'Cause every time a car you have wrapped your entire world in loses it's like losing a little part of yourself.

*Tips Fedora*

Did I say he didn't, dumbfuck? I also beat LS1s in my Grand Prixs. Modded cars tend to beat stock cars. Derp.

5.7stroker

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Yes, well aware that the 99 LS1 is faster than the 99 2v hence why people were willing to paying $4k - $10k more for them back then. I never (BACK THEN) lost to an ls1 that didn't have more money put into the car (mods + price of car) than what I had. Not saying that it couldn't be done with the right combo on a 99 Z back then for $25k + some parts, I just never came across it.

As for the GTP, one of them that I had was a 2001 Pace car with all the Whalen lights and **** on it. Bought it for $14,500 back in the day, put 50k miles on it, and then sold it for more than I paid for it 2 years later. Dealer thought it was a regular GTP....

big hammer

There's good reason why the 2v's are irregarded

HioSSilver

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May have got you guys confused......and it's highly unlikely your bolt on 2v beat even a stock ls2 gto.


gor Someone wanting me to post someone elses vid of a car close to what i claim and have posted proof of you have yet to back up anything you say .

How bout posting some proof of your own ****.


And btw


3.73 car will likely out trap a 4.10 car because well......gear calc *******. If you had half a brain you would've done figured this out.




Lolz
Oopps....more lolz
It's trapping 4mph faster than some because the some sucks.
I already posted my window sticker. There is no where near 10k difference i don't know why uou keep spewing that ****. I bet comparable optioned 2v and ls1 cars were less than 2k apart.

5.7stroker

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2v 4.6 can be made to be fast though. There's one running 8.0 at 169
It may not be a Casper ls1 running 6.86 @ 205, but 8 sec flat isn't that bad.

5.7stroker

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There certainly was a 10k difference with the SS and Ram Air depending on options. Your thinking of the 99 Z28 which was the cheaper of the 3. The dealership I bought my 99 GT from brand new was asking $21500, it was leather 5 speed without the mach 460. (which I think was a $500 option) I can find paper work if need be. I already posted window stickers of the 99 Camaro SS and 99 ram air costing $30K plus and with what options? 3.42's, monsoon T-tops and leather?

Here's a thread with several guys talking about their 99's being $30k plus.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/general-l...er-prices.html

No need to fault people for spending $9-$10k more on a car that only went a sec faster in the 1/4 mile. Maybe back then they wanted a ram air or SS and didn't care for the look of the Mustang and didn't mind paying that much money to be a second faster on average stock for stock.

JC316

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Why should I have to prove my **** if you don't have to prove yours? Take my word for it, you have absolutely no idea what a 2V is capable of.

5.7stroker

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It's capable of 8.0 @ 169, I can tell you that. And that's with the 4.6.....
It get's better with the 5.4

HioSSilver

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I don't care about either one of those.
Your about as dumb as jc if your trying to option up a camaro to prove your stupid point.

Fact is the ****** cars were priced similar. You don't have to buy a ss just as yoy didn't have to buy a cobro.

Jesus christ do you dumb ******* ever get tired if being stupid?
I posted mod list/vid and can post the slip if you like. Now post up something you dud bitch.....with some proof

From the sounds of it you have no idea what a ls1 is capable of.

I'm smart enough to know a ls1 is far more capable than a 2v.....your not.

Mike Morris

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That stuff didn't exist then for 2 valves and even if it did no one could tune something like that. Only person that made 2 valve stuff was Sean Hyland and that was if he wasn't ripping you off. Fastest 4 valve na guys were running mid to high 11s then. Even Superfly aka Stupidfly on its second motor struggled to run high 11s with head cams. Fastest mods guys back then was Paul Sivicky,Barry Shepard,Mike Smith, and Bob Cosby. 2 valves were very ever in the 11s back then and all of them were power adders. Stop with the bullshit. I raced my fox back then and hung out with most of the fast mod guys

JC316

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I also posted up a mod list. My story is just as unverifiable as your story.