2v mustang gt vs ls1
06-02-2016, 06:25 PM
#361
I don't recall them being priced similar, at least not what was available on the dealer lots. Otherwise I would have went with the ******* ls1 back then instead! I didn't feel like waiting to order a Z28 with no options.
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06-02-2016, 06:44 PM
#363
That stuff didn't exist then for 2 valves and even if it did no one could tune something like that. Only person that made 2 valve stuff was Sean Hyland and that was if he wasn't ripping you off. Fastest 4 valve na guys were running mid to high 11s then. Even Superfly aka Stupidfly on its second motor struggled to run high 11s with head cams. Fastest mods guys back then was Paul Sivicky,Barry Shepard,Mike Smith, and Bob Cosby. 2 valves were very ever in the 11s back then and all of them were power adders. Stop with the bullshit. I raced my fox back then and hung out with most of the fast mod guys
06-02-2016, 06:48 PM
#364
This has to be in the top five of the most retarded threads in the history of sr&k.
Oh, and 2v's suck. Always have. Long stroke motor with no torque. OHC motor that won't rev. It was a marvel of modern engineering.
Oh, and 2v's suck. Always have. Long stroke motor with no torque. OHC motor that won't rev. It was a marvel of modern engineering.
06-02-2016, 07:50 PM
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06-02-2016, 09:20 PM
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I dont understand comparing the sticker price of a 99 gt and a 99 ss. Wouldnt it be z28 vs gt and ss vs cobra? Im just guessing, but i bet the prices would be quite similar
06-02-2016, 10:18 PM
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You ain't to dumb for that are ya?
You sir have more common sense x10 than jc and 5.7 combined
06-02-2016, 10:30 PM
#368
You posted a video and a time slip, so clearly the car went 11.96. Surely you wouldn't be lying about the mods that it has, oh wait, yes you would. If you go back and look at my post about that car, you'll see that I linked several FBO gt's that went into the 12's. More than enough to handle an LS2 GTO or a LBO LS1.
06-02-2016, 10:48 PM
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Oh and here is a cammed 2V walking all over LBO LS1's. Considering the second camaro in the video has nearly the same mods as your example, this mustang clearly runs 11's.
And a 2V FBO GT trashing an 02 TA
FBO, 4.10, weight reduction car, much like the one I had. 12.77@106..
FBO 2v waxing an LS1 GTO..
Are we having fun yet? Look at all the examples I can provide. How many examples of LS1 cars do you have that ran 11's with so few mods? Oh that's right, none
And a 2V FBO GT trashing an 02 TA
FBO, 4.10, weight reduction car, much like the one I had. 12.77@106..
FBO 2v waxing an LS1 GTO..
Are we having fun yet? Look at all the examples I can provide. How many examples of LS1 cars do you have that ran 11's with so few mods? Oh that's right, none
06-03-2016, 01:06 AM
#372
Whats the fastest LS1 in the sport? Neither one matters here.
My pitbull like tenacity in this whole thread boils down to two things.
1. Hio's claim that a 3.73, UDP, MAF, LS6 intake, spec clutch car went 11.96@116 and his inability to find a single car that has ever gotten anywhere near those times.
2. Everyone else thinking that Hio's claim is reasonable, but my claim of a FBO, 4.10 2V beating my LBO LS1 cars and bone stock LS2 goat is unreasonable. Even though I have provided numerous examples of similarly modded cars going mid/high 12's.
Since neither one of us can actually prove our claims, we have to rely on similar cars to draw conclusions.
If any one here could find an untuned, no tire, no header, no lid, no nitrous LS1 with minimal weight reduction that runs 11's, I would admit that I was wrong and let this go.
My pitbull like tenacity in this whole thread boils down to two things.
1. Hio's claim that a 3.73, UDP, MAF, LS6 intake, spec clutch car went 11.96@116 and his inability to find a single car that has ever gotten anywhere near those times.
2. Everyone else thinking that Hio's claim is reasonable, but my claim of a FBO, 4.10 2V beating my LBO LS1 cars and bone stock LS2 goat is unreasonable. Even though I have provided numerous examples of similarly modded cars going mid/high 12's.
Since neither one of us can actually prove our claims, we have to rely on similar cars to draw conclusions.
If any one here could find an untuned, no tire, no header, no lid, no nitrous LS1 with minimal weight reduction that runs 11's, I would admit that I was wrong and let this go.
06-03-2016, 02:56 AM
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Although a base Mustang GT and a standard Z28 are priced almost identically — $21,395 versus $21,405—our testers were separated by almost $1500dum$24,341 for the Chevy vs. $22,855 for the Mustang, due to the Camaro’s $1591 predumferred equipment package (including power goodies, remote entry, and an alarm —all standard on the Ford).
Price was basically a wash.
06-03-2016, 06:40 AM
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Now take the difference between the 2 cars. Knock off 2g for the car being a T/A and not a direct competition. Can you get the 2v to be putting "ls1's in his rear view" for 3k worth of bolts ons at that time? And go 11.70's?
06-03-2016, 07:09 AM
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Don't know if you have seen this one but also takes into account converter slippage % which with my yank ss3600 I figure it's about 6.5%
http://fitbodyshop.net/gear/index.php
http://fitbodyshop.net/gear/index.php
06-03-2016, 07:52 AM
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You posted a video and a time slip, so clearly the car went 11.96. Surely you wouldn't be lying about the mods that it has, oh wait, yes you would. If you go back and look at my post about that car, you'll see that I linked several FBO gt's that went into the 12's. More than enough to handle an LS2 GTO or a LBO LS1.
Here's the car. You think you're the 1st one to call bs on that car. That's what what people do when they don't understand but yet think they know some ****. You don't know ****
Now when you gonna post proof of anything?
You're not the first one to call bs. I've been proving ******* like you wrong for a long ****** time
Oh and here is a cammed 2V walking all over LBO LS1's. Considering the second camaro in the video has nearly the same mods as your example, this mustang clearly runs 11's.
2V Mustang GT vs bolt on Ls1 Camaros - YouTube
And a 2V FBO GT trashing an 02 TA
2v bolt on mustang vs ls1 - YouTube
FBO, 4.10, weight reduction car, much like the one I had. 12.77@106..
N/A Bolton GT: Quest for 12's - YouTube
FBO 2v waxing an LS1 GTO..
2V Mustang vs Ls1 GTO - YouTube
Are we having fun yet? Look at all the examples I can provide. How many examples of LS1 cars do you have that ran 11's with so few mods? Oh that's right, none
2V Mustang GT vs bolt on Ls1 Camaros - YouTube
And a 2V FBO GT trashing an 02 TA
2v bolt on mustang vs ls1 - YouTube
FBO, 4.10, weight reduction car, much like the one I had. 12.77@106..
N/A Bolton GT: Quest for 12's - YouTube
FBO 2v waxing an LS1 GTO..
2V Mustang vs Ls1 GTO - YouTube
Are we having fun yet? Look at all the examples I can provide. How many examples of LS1 cars do you have that ran 11's with so few mods? Oh that's right, none
The second vid you can clearly see the ls1 car smoking the tires......not gonna et like that.
Your examples is nothing you have done so clearly you have no clue.
http://www.pszweb.com/car/gears.htm<...</div> </div>
the fastest LS1 in the sport? Neither one matters here.
My pitbull like tenacity in this whole thread boils down to two things.
1. Hio's claim that a 3.73, UDP, MAF, LS6 intake, spec clutch car went 11.96@116 and his inability to find a single car that has ever gotten anywhere near those times.
2. Everyone else thinking that Hio's claim is reasonable, but my claim of a FBO, 4.10 2V beating my LBO LS1 cars and bone stock LS2 goat is unreasonable. Even though I have provided numerous examples of similarly modded cars going mid/high 12's.
Since neither one of us can actually prove our claims, we have to rely on similar cars to draw conclusions.
If any one here could find an untuned, no tire, no header, no lid, no nitrous LS1 with minimal weight reduction that runs 11's, I would admit that I was wrong and let this go.
My pitbull like tenacity in this whole thread boils down to two things.
1. Hio's claim that a 3.73, UDP, MAF, LS6 intake, spec clutch car went 11.96@116 and his inability to find a single car that has ever gotten anywhere near those times.
2. Everyone else thinking that Hio's claim is reasonable, but my claim of a FBO, 4.10 2V beating my LBO LS1 cars and bone stock LS2 goat is unreasonable. Even though I have provided numerous examples of similarly modded cars going mid/high 12's.
Since neither one of us can actually prove our claims, we have to rely on similar cars to draw conclusions.
If any one here could find an untuned, no tire, no header, no lid, no nitrous LS1 with minimal weight reduction that runs 11's, I would admit that I was wrong and let this go.
But yet you were asking for proof?
The point he trying to make is spending $XXX to go high 11's. 2v or ls1. He says it was cheaper in his 2v.
Now take the difference between the 2 cars. Knock off 2g for the car being a T/A and not a direct competition. Can you get the 2v to be putting "ls1's in his rear view" for 3k worth of bolts ons at that time? And go 11.70's?
The point he trying to make is spending $XXX to go high 11's. 2v or ls1. He says it was cheaper in his 2v.
Now take the difference between the 2 cars. Knock off 2g for the car being a T/A and not a direct competition. Can you get the 2v to be putting "ls1's in his rear view" for 3k worth of bolts ons at that time? And go 11.70's?
Don't know if you have seen this one but also takes into account converter slippage % which with my yank ss3600 I figure it's about 6.5%
http://fitbodyshop.net/gear/index.php
http://fitbodyshop.net/gear/index.php
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06-03-2016, 08:40 AM
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Whats the fastest LS1 in the sport? Neither one matters here.
My pitbull like tenacity in this whole thread boils down to two things.
1. Hio's claim that a 3.73, UDP, MAF, LS6 intake, spec clutch car went 11.96@116 and his inability to find a single car that has ever gotten anywhere near those times.
2. Everyone else thinking that Hio's claim is reasonable, but my claim of a FBO, 4.10 2V beating my LBO LS1 cars and bone stock LS2 goat is unreasonable. Even though I have provided numerous examples of similarly modded cars going mid/high 12's.
Since neither one of us can actually prove our claims, we have to rely on similar cars to draw conclusions.
If any one here could find an untuned, no tire, no header, no lid, no nitrous LS1 with minimal weight reduction that runs 11's, I would admit that I was wrong and let this go.
My pitbull like tenacity in this whole thread boils down to two things.
1. Hio's claim that a 3.73, UDP, MAF, LS6 intake, spec clutch car went 11.96@116 and his inability to find a single car that has ever gotten anywhere near those times.
2. Everyone else thinking that Hio's claim is reasonable, but my claim of a FBO, 4.10 2V beating my LBO LS1 cars and bone stock LS2 goat is unreasonable. Even though I have provided numerous examples of similarly modded cars going mid/high 12's.
Since neither one of us can actually prove our claims, we have to rely on similar cars to draw conclusions.
If any one here could find an untuned, no tire, no header, no lid, no nitrous LS1 with minimal weight reduction that runs 11's, I would admit that I was wrong and let this go.