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Old 09-23-2016, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Morris
I have raced Redbird 4 times. As I have told you numerous times its not worth running him stock in the past. I have raced 13 Zs with this car. Now he has mods and will bust me up. We are planning to run and include Zack. This is old news and has been told to you numerous times. I don't know why you are so bothered by it.
So now you have raced him 4x? What was the outcome? Because I am sure multiple people will remember every single time you posted a pic together I said go race...you said no point you will race him when he mods up....but now he is modded and you say he will bust you up? I'm not bothered at all I think it's funny how you come in here claiming Bros suck dick they're all liars they're all slow you wanna race one.....do you have any vids of these kills? I believe you your car is fast but you would have more subscribers than TRC if you posted these kills on YouTube
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Originally Posted by corysmach1
If your at OSR every weekend what's your camaro run? I can't say I know any Bros here that are liars but I am in an app with a bunch of liars you may know them.

Redbird-. Those numbers are off the chart high. Looks like it may even be a Boss IM and the tq numbers say that also.
Car has stage 3 cams also. This was on a mustang dyno
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Originally Posted by Poppacapp
Car has stage 3 cams also. This was on a mustang dyno
Stage 3 cams and Boss IM?
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Originally Posted by corysmach1
Stage 3 cams and Boss IM?
Thats what he said in the comments. Ill see if I can find and screenshot
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Damnit. Here I was wanting to switch tuners.
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Originally Posted by islander033
How is a toon an internal mod? LOL

You realize that GM has some motors with VVT....or nah?
Sane goes for gm motors
Originally Posted by snake95
It's not an internal mod on GM cars, but it is on FoMoCo vehicles. Duh.
Same for both
Originally Posted by TT427
Who is asking for a list? It simply would be explained how changing timing in the 5.0/rockers on an LS are basically the same idea, accomplished by different means depending on LS, Modular or Coyote. Then everyone could vote on it.... If changing IE events is good for one it's good for the other. Or you guys can hang on to your douBRO standard.
This
Originally Posted by islander033
Opening up a motor is not the same as a toon.

My 5.4L does not have VVT, and I am not the least jelly that Coyote can do it in a toon and I can't on mine.

Toon is toon and opening a motor is opening a motor.
It's changing/adjusting something that touches oil. But rockers being a bilt on goes way back. Cam timing change = rockers.....just the way it is




Originally Posted by 99peweterls1
Honestly it's fun. Lol

They sound amazing with minimal exhaust mods. (My catback' sole reason)

And they are really fun to drive hard. Once I tinted the windows the car is extremely comfortable the whole experience MAKES you want to be in it. One thing is the back seat is completely useless but that's with any of these cars so not really a deciding factor. I love my S550.
That's my biggest complaint about the s550/sexgen...even the s197. No rear seat room. Makes no sense to have a car that large and no rear seat room. Forfgens have more rear seat room.
Originally Posted by corysmach1
Ported Yote heads flow over 340. Not bad but can't mill the factory heads down to even gain a full point of compression..... without worrying about PTV. Sucks.
That's the 4v design Achilles heel. Now that 340 claim i have only seen at .600 lift. But there are no cams that go to .600 for them. So it's pretty much irrelevant.
Originally Posted by redbird555
Where is there a full weight coyote in the 10s?? Even with ftw fuel I don't really see it happening. Mid 11s is very accurate for 99% of people
There are no full weigh 10sec coyotes.
Originally Posted by redbird555
look at this 5.0 only gaining 10hp with e85!

E85 ftw!
Originally Posted by Poppacapp
Car has stage 3 cams also. This was on a mustang dyno
I thought it seemed high for bolt ons
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Doug-. I am not being a smartass at all when I ask this because nobody can seem to answer it. Why do Coyotes make such good power if they have no cubes and the heads aren't great compared to LS3?
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Originally Posted by corysmach1
Doug-. I am not being a smartass at all when I ask this because nobody can seem to answer it. Why do Coyotes make such good power if they have no cubes and the heads aren't great compared to LS3?
High compression mutiple cams and they have the appearance/look of a big block. You would think they would make more doh
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Originally Posted by Theblacknightls1
High compression mutiple cams and they have the appearance/look of a big block. You would think they would make more doh
Compression is extremely close.....so once again please answer it?
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Originally Posted by corysmach1
Compression is extremely close.....so once again please answer it?
So which one has more compression and I did answer it mutiple cams?
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Coyote 11:1 and ls3 10.7:1
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Originally Posted by marc97taws6
Coyote 11:1 and ls3 10.7:1
Mutiple cams, 32 valves, and looks like a big block with big *** heads. More moving parts in general period.
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Originally Posted by Theblacknightls1
Mutiple cams, 32 valves, and looks like a big block with big *** heads. More moving parts in general period.
Your old lady can't wait for one
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Ok Cman let me review races against Redbird for the 7th time for you


Dman in C6 car with bolt ons vs me in Fordgonebad's 2000 Ta ram air with tune.
60 MPH roll twice. Got raped by Redbird

C4 bolt on Vette vs stock C6Z. Me in C6Z ,him in C4. I killed him. Switch drivers I got killed.

My record is 1-4 against him.

My record against bros down here with Holefish.... 18-0 at OSR and on the street including coworkers at work. I heard **** for months from these bros and finally got sick of it and grabbed the car from MD. I am heading down south to meet up with Bambino and company maybe next weekend. I will race some FTW bros. I am sure they will film it. Fastest confirmed Bro kill was the blown one who runs 11.4 120 at OSR. He lives at the Marina where I keep the boat. His friends are convinced after looking over the car that Hio installed a 383 LS motor...refer back to the pics I posted for Zyborg of them climbing all over the car looking for N20 lines.

Z06 kills in Florida include 2 from work. Mods were intake,tune,clutch,NPP mod(pulled fuse) and drag radials. Dig runs and 40MPH rolls. I don't film and we don't film at work because we can get in trouble in more ways than one. Find a local bro that REALLY runs mid 10s and traps 125 and up n/a and I will run him. Would be an awesome race. I have said this over and over and you seem to be bent out of shape about it.

Zack(redbird LS3 catfish) vs redbird vs me hopefully soon. Zack not ready to race yet from a dig so he couldn't make it last time. No big deal.
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Correction 1-3 record.
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Originally Posted by marc97taws6
Your old lady can't wait for one
Im convincing her to buy a old shelby.
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Originally Posted by corysmach1
Doug-. I am not being a smartass at all when I ask this because nobody can seem to answer it. Why do Coyotes make such good power if they have no cubes and the heads aren't great compared to LS3?
Long stoke small bore raises volumetric efficiency. The issue there lies in having a good enough head to feed it. That's where the 4v coyote head comes in. A longer stroke will take a head to its choking point faster than a shorter stroke even at the same CI. FWIW the coyote actually has a little more stroke than an ls3

Problem with fords DOHC layout is the pewp bore spacing which is extremely CI limiting. There's blocks now supposedly where you can get 400 CI out of a coyote but with the stroke length needed for that you'll need a much better head than a stock coyote casting to feed it properly.

In the end I would agree that the ls3 head layout is superior for maximum hp due to its high CSA and ability to feed a larger engine. Ported ls3 heads flow bętter than ported ls3 castings.

Both are good engine but two different roads to a similar destination. But in the end NA the ls3 is just more capable
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Originally Posted by Theblacknightls1
Im convincing her to buy a old shelby.
Gears, TVS housing, suspension, DRs, full exhaust, let her rip
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What did the car run at OSW Mike?
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Mike didn't race a red c6z not long ago and beat him up fairly good from a dig. Car was weird though, trapped slower than me and he had intake and tune.

I'm just saying also that tuner looks like he knows how to tune e85. Unless I'm really bad at math that's way more than 9hp


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