Forced Inductions turbos turbine options??
06-17-2024, 10:39 PM
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Forced Inductions turbos turbine options?? I've been looking hard at one of these FIS turbos. Billet 80mm compressor/96mm turbine wheel. In the drop-down menu there's a few options for turbine wheels, gas/diesel standard, gas gen 2 10 blade, and gas gen 3 9 blade. What's the difference between the 9 and 10 blade besides 1 more blade??
Can't really find any info on this. If any of y'all have opinions on this I'd love to hear them. Thanks guys have fun
Can't really find any info on this. If any of y'all have opinions on this I'd love to hear them. Thanks guys have fun
06-18-2024, 10:56 AM
#2
You should just call FIS and talk with them. They're very helpful and will explain better than anyone on here can.
You should also look into their TDI lineup. They are basically the last model turbo from the latest and greatest at a good discount. For the basic turbo you're looking at I would absolutely use a TDI over an FIS and save money.
You should also look into their TDI lineup. They are basically the last model turbo from the latest and greatest at a good discount. For the basic turbo you're looking at I would absolutely use a TDI over an FIS and save money.
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06-18-2024, 10:58 AM
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You should just call FIS and talk with them. They're very helpful and will explain better than anyone on here can.
You should also look into their TDI lineup. They are basically the last model turbo from the latest and greatest at a good discount. For the basic turbo you're looking at I would absolutely use a TDI over an FIS and save money.
You should also look into their TDI lineup. They are basically the last model turbo from the latest and greatest at a good discount. For the basic turbo you're looking at I would absolutely use a TDI over an FIS and save money.
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06-25-2024, 03:50 PM
#5
Generally additional blades spool more quickly but are more choked up top. Less blades will flow more up top and spool slower. Same deal with compressor wheels.
Its really not a 96mm exh wheel either. A lot of people are misled by BW’s exh wheel specs. Its backwards from the rest of the world. Everyone else goes by the minor diameter to size exh wheels. Its an 87/96. Basically, an 87mm wheel to the rest of the world. Which is the limiting factor with that unit for the most part. Depending on your power goal, you may want more exh wheel.
Its really not a 96mm exh wheel either. A lot of people are misled by BW’s exh wheel specs. Its backwards from the rest of the world. Everyone else goes by the minor diameter to size exh wheels. Its an 87/96. Basically, an 87mm wheel to the rest of the world. Which is the limiting factor with that unit for the most part. Depending on your power goal, you may want more exh wheel.
07-01-2024, 04:10 PM
#6
Generally additional blades spool more quickly but are more choked up top. Less blades will flow more up top and spool slower. Same deal with compressor wheels.
Its really not a 96mm exh wheel either. A lot of people are misled by BW’s exh wheel specs. Its backwards from the rest of the world. Everyone else goes by the minor diameter to size exh wheels. Its an 87/96. Basically, an 87mm wheel to the rest of the world. Which is the limiting factor with that unit for the most part. Depending on your power goal, you may want more exh wheel.
Its really not a 96mm exh wheel either. A lot of people are misled by BW’s exh wheel specs. Its backwards from the rest of the world. Everyone else goes by the minor diameter to size exh wheels. Its an 87/96. Basically, an 87mm wheel to the rest of the world. Which is the limiting factor with that unit for the most part. Depending on your power goal, you may want more exh wheel.
My billet S484 with the 87/96 exhaust wheel will probably make more power than my LS1 block could ever handle but at what point should you look at the bigger exhaust wheels over the typical 87/96 unit?
07-01-2024, 04:17 PM
#7
Depends when the 87/96 exh wheel starts to peter out. That unit has been pushed pretty dang far. I believe capizzi used an s484 on some of his original record setting runs. (was a nice FI unit) Though he was well past the sweet spot and getting diminishing power per pound... Could have ran the same number on less boost with the bigger unit, but would pay for it response wise. Unless you are chasing records, I can't see a bigger unit needed.
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07-02-2024, 09:34 AM
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Depends when the 87/96 exh wheel starts to peter out. That unit has been pushed pretty dang far. I believe capizzi used an s484 on some of his original record setting runs. (was a nice FI unit) Though he was well past the sweet spot and getting diminishing power per pound... Could have ran the same number on less boost with the bigger unit, but would pay for it response wise. Unless you are chasing records, I can't see a bigger unit needed.
That was my thought in that this unit would take me farther than I could realistically go with my current engine, its mostly the LS1 block/crank I don't have a ton of faith in.
Now when I build a 5.3 with all the forged goodies it'll be a different story.
On another note while I have you, my buddy texted me last night and he's giving me all his meth injection stuff for the price of shipping so I'm going to start a thread on putting the kit together and would love yours and @ddnspider opinions/guidance.
Everything is good for use with 100% meth, there's two tanks, push lock line/fittings (not sure on that stuff), tee, twin nozzles (not sure on size) and the interface so I can use my Cortex EBC to control the meth.
Just need to get a pump and any other misc. items I may need.
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07-02-2024, 09:47 AM
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Not much to it honestly. If you have an IC, just plumb nozzles post IC and go to town.
I have used a lot of the devils own 300psi pumps and nozzles in the past. But the US site seems down and sketchy these days. They are one of the few companies that listed the pumps flow vs pressure graphs, but I assume most “300psi pumps” are similar.
Julio at Alky control would be my next suggestion. He’s been in the game a LONG time. Can’t go wrong with his pumps and hardware. I wouldn’t’ use push lock hoses on 100% meth. The o-rings swell and make them one time use, and they eventually leak. Not what you want with a flammable fluid in the bay. Julio sells all the AN and SS lines specifically made for 100% meth.
I have used a lot of the devils own 300psi pumps and nozzles in the past. But the US site seems down and sketchy these days. They are one of the few companies that listed the pumps flow vs pressure graphs, but I assume most “300psi pumps” are similar.
Julio at Alky control would be my next suggestion. He’s been in the game a LONG time. Can’t go wrong with his pumps and hardware. I wouldn’t’ use push lock hoses on 100% meth. The o-rings swell and make them one time use, and they eventually leak. Not what you want with a flammable fluid in the bay. Julio sells all the AN and SS lines specifically made for 100% meth.
07-02-2024, 02:28 PM
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Depends when the 87/96 exh wheel starts to peter out. That unit has been pushed pretty dang far. I believe capizzi used an s484 on some of his original record setting runs. (was a nice FI unit) Though he was well past the sweet spot and getting diminishing power per pound... Could have ran the same number on less boost with the bigger unit, but would pay for it response wise. Unless you are chasing records, I can't see a bigger unit needed.
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