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07-06-2010, 12:09 PM
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1le? Alright. I have a 2001 Z28, M6, Artic White, Cloth Interior, Manuel Windows, Manuel Door Locks, No Traction Control, No Cruise, No Hatch Release. A very base model Zcar. Rare Car? Im interested to get some feedback. 
07-06-2010, 02:59 PM
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You know, that's what I was thinking too. But for some reason, CompNine's database (admittedly not flawless) contains no 1LE Camaros or Firebirds for the 2000 MY. 
Are you sure there were 1LEs actually built in '00? Just because it was advertized in a sales brochure doesn't mean some were ordered and built. In fact, my '98 Firebird brochure lists the 1LE option. Wonder why Chevy waited until '00 to advertize 1LE?
Are you sure there were 1LEs actually built in '00? Just because it was advertized in a sales brochure doesn't mean some were ordered and built. In fact, my '98 Firebird brochure lists the 1LE option. Wonder why Chevy waited until '00 to advertize 1LE?
07-06-2010, 03:21 PM
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I dug through my e-notes I've collected over the years and found this on 1LEs:
This adds some credibility to CompNine's database.
Year Model # produced
1988 Trans Am 1LE 3
1989 Trans Am 1LE 26
1990 Trans Am 1LE 4
1991 Formula 1LE 46
1991 Trans Am 1LE 62
1992 Formula 1LE 22
1992 Trans Am 1LE 9
1993 Formula 1LE 3
1994 Firebird 1LE 0
1995 Formula 1LE 2
1996 Formula 1LE 10
1997 Formula 1LE 14
1998 Formula 1LE 14
1999 Formula 1LE 20
2000 Firebird 1LE 0 (not available)
2001 Firehawk 1LE 60
Source: https://ls1tech.com/forums/11469118-post3.html
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Data courtesy of editor of Super Chevy Magazine
Year
Model
# produced
1988 Camaro IROC Z 1LE 4
1989 Camaro IROC Z 1LE 111
1990 Camaro IROC Z 1LE 62
1991 Camaro Z28 1LE 478
1992 Camaro Z28 1LE 705
1993 Camaro Z28 1LE 19 Document
1994 Camaro Z28 1LE 135
1995 Camaro Z28 1LE 106
1996 Camaro Z28 1LE 55
1997 Camaro Z28 1LE 48
1998 Camaro Z28 1LE 129* Click here for breakdown
1999 Camaro Z28 1LE 74** Click here for breakdown
2000 Camaro Z28 1LE 0 (not available)
2001 Camaro SS 1LE 80 Click here for breakdown
2002 Camaro SS 1LE
* 99 was a number that floated around for a long time as the 1998 1LE production, but the breakdown from GM shows 129 1LE cars were built
** 82 was a number that floated around for a long time as the 1998 1LE production, but the breakdown from GM shows 74 1LE cars were built
Source: https://ls1tech.com/forums/11470215-post6.html
1988 Trans Am 1LE 3
1989 Trans Am 1LE 26
1990 Trans Am 1LE 4
1991 Formula 1LE 46
1991 Trans Am 1LE 62
1992 Formula 1LE 22
1992 Trans Am 1LE 9
1993 Formula 1LE 3
1994 Firebird 1LE 0
1995 Formula 1LE 2
1996 Formula 1LE 10
1997 Formula 1LE 14
1998 Formula 1LE 14
1999 Formula 1LE 20
2000 Firebird 1LE 0 (not available)
2001 Firehawk 1LE 60
Source: https://ls1tech.com/forums/11469118-post3.html
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Data courtesy of editor of Super Chevy Magazine
Year
Model
# produced
1988 Camaro IROC Z 1LE 4
1989 Camaro IROC Z 1LE 111
1990 Camaro IROC Z 1LE 62
1991 Camaro Z28 1LE 478
1992 Camaro Z28 1LE 705
1993 Camaro Z28 1LE 19 Document
1994 Camaro Z28 1LE 135
1995 Camaro Z28 1LE 106
1996 Camaro Z28 1LE 55
1997 Camaro Z28 1LE 48
1998 Camaro Z28 1LE 129* Click here for breakdown
1999 Camaro Z28 1LE 74** Click here for breakdown
2000 Camaro Z28 1LE 0 (not available)
2001 Camaro SS 1LE 80 Click here for breakdown
2002 Camaro SS 1LE
* 99 was a number that floated around for a long time as the 1998 1LE production, but the breakdown from GM shows 129 1LE cars were built
** 82 was a number that floated around for a long time as the 1998 1LE production, but the breakdown from GM shows 74 1LE cars were built
Source: https://ls1tech.com/forums/11470215-post6.html
07-06-2010, 06:32 PM
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1LE delete package was available as a factory option on 88-99 fbods.RPO was cancelled spring of 99, no MY 00 cars came with it. It was an outsourced SLP second sticker option on 01-02's grouped under RPO Y2Y along with chrome wheels, floor mats etc.
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Mine is a 1LE and it is on the SLP sticker like mentioned above. I've tried to find out how many in 02 with no luck. If you have the code, and all the stuff included with a 1LE, maybe someone ordered the car without any options to make their own version of a stripper. Like the original 1LE's.
07-07-2010, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 01stngkiller
do yall think my car is rare whatsoever? be honest. no hurt feelings here just curious
07-07-2010, 01:20 PM
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^^ thats a very valid point. Just the reason i like my car so much is because its so different from all the other camaros in my area and thats what drew me to it when i bought it. i jus curious to find out if it was anything special or just another stripper z28.
Just glad i dont have to worry about window regulators goin bad on it
Just glad i dont have to worry about window regulators goin bad on it
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His car won't have the 1LE code, it's an '01 Z28, so it never went to SLP. But yeah, getting a stripper gets you most of the weight savings that made a 1LE infamous, minus suspension upgrades.
"Rare" is a relative term, depends on who you ask or what you are comparing it to. Use the link in my earlier post to find out exactly how rare your car is. But keep in mind, mid '60s 'Vettes w/ Powerglides are rare too. "Rare" doesn't equal "desireable" or "valuable".
"Rare" is a relative term, depends on who you ask or what you are comparing it to. Use the link in my earlier post to find out exactly how rare your car is. But keep in mind, mid '60s 'Vettes w/ Powerglides are rare too. "Rare" doesn't equal "desireable" or "valuable".
And I agree about desireable and valuable. My 1LE makes it valuable to me! But to most people, probably not.
07-13-2010, 10:22 AM
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Rarity with regard to the options the topic starter said isn't really much of a consideration. It just depends what someone is a fan of. Personally I like all power options and wouldn't want a low option car.
1LE stopped in '99. After that it was just a name for suspension pieces from SLP, which... was not the same thing as owning a 1LE from '93-'99. For certain years, the 1LE option included an oil cooler and a few other bits and pieces. You can't generalize about these 1LE cars, because just about every year the options changed. For example, in '96, ALL Camaro Z28s had to have air conditioning, even 1LEs, so 1LEs from '95 without A/C are different from all '96 1LEs...
1LE stopped in '99. After that it was just a name for suspension pieces from SLP, which... was not the same thing as owning a 1LE from '93-'99. For certain years, the 1LE option included an oil cooler and a few other bits and pieces. You can't generalize about these 1LE cars, because just about every year the options changed. For example, in '96, ALL Camaro Z28s had to have air conditioning, even 1LEs, so 1LEs from '95 without A/C are different from all '96 1LEs...
07-13-2010, 10:43 AM
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1LE stopped in '99. After that it was just a name for suspension pieces from SLP, which... was not the same thing as owning a 1LE from '93-'99. For certain years, the 1LE option included an oil cooler and a few other bits and pieces. You can't generalize about these 1LE cars, because just about every year the options changed. For example, in '96, ALL Camaro Z28s had to have air conditioning, even 1LEs, so 1LEs from '95 without A/C are different from all '96 1LEs...
07-13-2010, 10:53 AM
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The 1LE suspension is still the same 1LE suspension that 1LEs had from GM.
It just doesn't include the oil cooler and you could get 1LE springs/shocks on a really high optioned car unlike the old GM method of doing 1LE where you were basically buying a factory race car with very few options.
I'm not saying 1LE after '99 is no good, I'm just being clear that it's two different things.
I'm not going to check old records and stuff for this explanation to make sure I'm 100% accurate with the stuff you couldn't have, but if you ordered a Z28 1LE in '94, you couldn't have comfort stuff like A/C, you couldn't have leather, you couldn't have power locks, windows, seat, etc. and you couldn't have the Bose stereo system.
In contrast...you could have the 1LE suspension from SLP on a 35th Anniversary Edition SS with power everything, Monsoon speakers, A/C, leather, etc.
So it's two different things. '93-'99 1LE = a stripped down Z28. '00 or '01-'02 = either a stripped down SS or a highly optioned SS, it didn't matter. All that does matter about the '00 or '01-'02 cars with 1LE is that they have a great suspension.
It just doesn't include the oil cooler and you could get 1LE springs/shocks on a really high optioned car unlike the old GM method of doing 1LE where you were basically buying a factory race car with very few options.
I'm not saying 1LE after '99 is no good, I'm just being clear that it's two different things.
I'm not going to check old records and stuff for this explanation to make sure I'm 100% accurate with the stuff you couldn't have, but if you ordered a Z28 1LE in '94, you couldn't have comfort stuff like A/C, you couldn't have leather, you couldn't have power locks, windows, seat, etc. and you couldn't have the Bose stereo system.
In contrast...you could have the 1LE suspension from SLP on a 35th Anniversary Edition SS with power everything, Monsoon speakers, A/C, leather, etc.
So it's two different things. '93-'99 1LE = a stripped down Z28. '00 or '01-'02 = either a stripped down SS or a highly optioned SS, it didn't matter. All that does matter about the '00 or '01-'02 cars with 1LE is that they have a great suspension.
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The 1LE suspension is still the same 1LE suspension that 1LEs had from GM.
In contrast...you could have the 1LE suspension from SLP on a 35th Anniversary Edition SS with power everything, Monsoon speakers, A/C, leather, etc.
So it's two different things. '93-'99 1LE = a stripped down Z28. '00 or '01-'02 = either a stripped down SS or a highly optioned SS, it didn't matter. All that does matter about the '00 or '01-'02 cars with 1LE is that they have a great suspension.
In contrast...you could have the 1LE suspension from SLP on a 35th Anniversary Edition SS with power everything, Monsoon speakers, A/C, leather, etc.
So it's two different things. '93-'99 1LE = a stripped down Z28. '00 or '01-'02 = either a stripped down SS or a highly optioned SS, it didn't matter. All that does matter about the '00 or '01-'02 cars with 1LE is that they have a great suspension.
07-13-2010, 11:09 AM
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It's just one of those silly things GM threw at us to cause problems with making generalizations. Probably the 2nd biggest problem.
1st biggest problem being the issue of calling 4th gen Camaros RSes... The RS was a '96-'97 only thing for V6 Camaros with ground effects. '98-'02, ground effects were called Sport Appearance Package and could be had on V6 and Z28 Camaros. It's annoying to see a person with a '01 V6 Camaro with sport appearance package call their Camaro a Camaro RS, because for '01-'02... a Camaro RS was an SLP V6 Camaro with stripes and a lot of goodies that did NOT include ground effects.
Confusing huh?
For that matter, you could get the same ground effects as a '96-'97 RS on a Z28 by going to your dealership and ordering the F1 ground effects package on your Z28. Ridiculously confusing.
1st biggest problem being the issue of calling 4th gen Camaros RSes... The RS was a '96-'97 only thing for V6 Camaros with ground effects. '98-'02, ground effects were called Sport Appearance Package and could be had on V6 and Z28 Camaros. It's annoying to see a person with a '01 V6 Camaro with sport appearance package call their Camaro a Camaro RS, because for '01-'02... a Camaro RS was an SLP V6 Camaro with stripes and a lot of goodies that did NOT include ground effects.
Confusing huh?
For that matter, you could get the same ground effects as a '96-'97 RS on a Z28 by going to your dealership and ordering the F1 ground effects package on your Z28. Ridiculously confusing.