boos2

Jayson,

What all is included on those short blocks (347 CID for example)? Cam? Pulley? Timing set? etc. How big a shot could those handle? I know that would void the warranty, just for future reference. Thanks

Mike

<small>[ April 07, 2003, 04:53 PM: Message edited by: blky2kta ]</small>

Nine Ball

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Shortblock = block, crank, pistons, connecting rods, piston rings, rod bearings. Balanced and Assembled.

Tony

boos2

I was just curious because ARE advertises their shortblock w/ cam, dbl roller, etc. http://www.agostino-racing.com/pdf/A...rt%20Block.pdf

Not trying to compare shops or quality or anything like that. Was just comparing what diff. shops called a short block. I have some MTI stuff and I'm very happy with it and especially their service.

Mike

Q

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<img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> WOW starting to like the iron block better and better.

MTI

MTI will be running a special the entire month of April on these shortblock combinations:

Iron Block Combinations:

370 CID - $3995. outright
Stock 3.62” crank – nodular iron
Manley Sportsman rods 6.100”
Wiseco flat top pistons 4.030” bore size

408 CID - $5995. outright
Lunati 4.00” crank – 4340 forged steel
Lunati Billet Rods 6.125”
Wiseco flat top pistons 4.030” bore size

427 CID - $6295. outright
Callies 4.125” crank – 4340 forged steel
Lunati Billet Rods 6.125”
Wiseco 8cc dish piston 4.060” bore size

Aluminum Block Combinations:

347 CID - $2995.**
Stock 3.62” crank – nodular iron
Manley Sportsman rods 6.100”
Wiseco flat top pistons 3.903” bore size
**Exchange block and crank or $1000. core

382 CID - $4995.**
Lunati 4.00” crank – 4340 forged steel
Lunati Billet Rods 6.125”
Wiseco flat top pistons 3.903” bore size
**Exchange block or $800. core

All assemblies balanced, bored, honed & fully assembled using either Childs & Albert rings or Hastings rings(stock bore) with Clevite 77 rod bearings and Federal Mogul main bearings.
Prices do not include freight costs or engine container($150)
50% initial deposit required. Remainder due prior to shipping.
No substitutions will be allowed.
Engines will be warranted against defects in workmanship and materials for a period of 90 days from receipt. No warranty on vehicles equipped with any type of forced induction. All C/R at 11:1 with 68cc combustion chambers.
Approximate build time will be 6 - 8 weeks.

We are also offering an installation special. Please e-mail me directly for any quotes as I will need to know your exact combination so that I can quote you accurately.
JaysonMTI@aol.com

CamaroSS_2002

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Q:
<strong> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> WOW starting to like the iron block better and better. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, but can you deal with the extra 75lbs <img border="0" alt="[driving]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_driving3.gif" />

MTI

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by blky2kta:
<strong> I was just curious because ARE advertises their shortblock w/ cam, dbl roller, etc. http://www.agostino-racing.com/pdf/A...rt%20Block.pdf

Not trying to compare shops or quality or anything like that. Was just comparing what diff. shops called a short block. I have some MTI stuff and I'm very happy with it and especially their service.

Mike </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I understand what you are asking. We chose not to add a cam or timing chain to our special as many people already have the cam and chain they need. However, if you need a cam and chain, e-mail me and I'll quote you on those parts.

Our built 5.7 does has Manley Sportsman 6.100" connecting rods.

Nine Ball

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, but can you deal with the extra 75lbs</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">1. K-member and lightweight hood = -80 lbs
2. more nitrous = -500 lbs <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Q

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by CamaroSS_2002:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Q:
<strong> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> WOW starting to like the iron block better and better. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, but can you deal with the extra 75lbs <img border="0" alt="[driving]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_driving3.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">sure can. tubular k-member, a-arms, and Nawzz <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Scalpel

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That's a great price.

poolfanatic

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You had to do this right after I parted my car out? <img border="0" alt="[bang head]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_banghead.gif" />

J/K, TTT for you. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

JoSeY

Wow Jayson...nice special! I'm thinking about the Iron block 370 or the 347 Aluminum...my question is with Stage II GTP heads will I have to have them reworked as you said I would if I went BIG BORE...is the 370 to big for those heads?

Thanks

MTI

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by JoSeY:
<strong> Wow Jayson...nice special! I'm thinking about the Iron block 370 or the 347 Aluminum...my question is with Stage II GTP heads will I have to have them reworked as you said I would if I went BIG BORE...is the 370 to big for those heads?

Thanks </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The 370 CID is not too big for those heads, however, they would need to be reworked(primarily chambers) to accomodate the 4.030" bore. The heads will also pick up some dramatic increases in flow as well by doing this. You will definitely need a bigger cam! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

RED2K

I called you guys about doing a 5.3 and you guys never called back.

oOoLy

I want to ask you how much the 382 CID long block with ls6 heads and a good cam it will cost me ?

Thanks

LT99LS1

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What would be the compression ratio be on those short blots with unmilled 5.7 heads?

Nitrous Assisted

Those iron block prices include the block itself , right?

JoSeY

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by MTI:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by JoSeY:
<strong> Wow Jayson...nice special! I'm thinking about the Iron block 370 or the 347 Aluminum...my question is with Stage II GTP heads will I have to have them reworked as you said I would if I went BIG BORE...is the 370 to big for those heads?

Thanks </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The 370 CID is not too big for those heads, however, they would need to be reworked(primarily chambers) to accomodate the 4.030" bore. The heads will also pick up some dramatic increases in flow as well by doing this. You will definitely need a bigger cam! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Sweet...I'm comin by to pick up an X1 cam soon anyways...this 218/224 is sooo "little" now..

Shoot me a quote on reworking the heads at your convienence...

Thanks again for Sponsoring the Shootout Jen and I had a blast.

MTI

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by chikn:
<strong> Also what bolts are holding the bottom end together? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Factory bolts hold the main caps together unless you opt for the ARP stud kit. This adds $199. to the price of the block.

MTI

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by LT99LS1:
<strong> What would be the compression ratio be on those short blots with unmilled 5.7 heads? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">10.5 - 10.7:1
.030" off will add about 1/2 a point.