Sarge_13

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That sumbitch better have had Vtec.

InEEdSPEED

I wanna know where i was completely wrong. Point that out to me please. Also, just because some of your buddies ran a low 13 or 13 flat doesnt mean my statement wasnt true. Also, configure altitude, traction, ect into the equation. In other words, what are you talking about?

Ruckus46Gt

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I'm a little late into this discussion and might be able to shed a little light into this discussion. I am not reading all 6 pages I can tell you that right off the bat but read most of the front page. Yes gears wake the hell up out of a 2v, most go to small. A stalled auto 2v will run right with a 5 speed 2v unlike what was said earlier. A 2v can give a ls1 car a run for its money, but more work will be done to the 2v its the nature of the beast your starting from a lower power car. Just bolt ons the ls1 car has the advantage, a 2v will jump out hard on the ls1 car however wont have enough to hold it(2vs with 4.10s will go through the traps just at redline with 4.10s so 110-112 ish...4.30s will go through the traps same mph but be around 6200rpms so whoever is saying 115-120 on a bolt on 2v with 4.10s is what they top out in 4th gear is full of ****)
Now for the comparision I personally have done...my 2v

Car went low 12's at 109 back on the easy coast n/a (298 rwhp....3280 weight)
Mods:
Performance:
Vt stage 2 cams, Densecharger, C&L plenum, Accufab 75mm t/b, steeda pullies, mac lts, mac prochamber, bassani catback

Suspension/Chassis:
Eibach drag launch kit, Tokico illuminas, hpm mega bite jr lca, steeda hardcore double adj uppers, Pa racing mild steel kmember with stock a arms and spring perches, mm c/c plates

Drivetrain:
Fidanza alum flywhee, frpp alum driveshaft, pro motion built t45, steeda triax, frpp 4.30 gears, detriot true track, moser 31 spline axles, arp 3.5" studs

Ok my Ls1 auto car
Mods are 17" zr1s with nitto drag radial, lt's, true duals, lid, 3k stall
Car went 12.5@109 (317rwhp...3650 weight)


Difference the ls1 rans on the west coast in Da's much higher then the 2v did and the 2v had mrore in the suspension never fully dialed it in or reved it past 6500 except first gear. Corrected slips the ls1 tech is a little faster. For arguements sake they are qually as fast. Driveability win goes to the ls1, car is full weight still, lowering springs, reg rims etc (just swapped out to skinnies etc). If anyone is in ny and wants to test out a little 2v I'm sure I can set something up and you will see your *** get handed to you unless you are a full heads and cam car...2v is n/a

edit:

2v timeslip (12.4 was mine 12.5 was a n/a 2v with a built 302 heads, cam, bullitt intake on a nitrous tune)
other is camaros timeslip (12.58)...mustang was atco and camaro was in az at track 1470 above sealevel

FlashLCD33

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450rwhp is a good running heads/cam car. Many do that + a 150 shot. With a set of rod bolts, the LS1 bottom end is usually able to do 600+hp with a good tune and good maintenance.

No idea about the 2v mustangs though, I lack a lot of Ford knowledge

Quick Sh0t xMLx

What? Had a GT(3650) and my 4th gear would be right at 114ish@6000 rpms. Had 4.10s and 26" street tires. Ran 28" DRs at the track though. You can probably bang out to 117 @ 6200 or something.

odarabla

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I cut a 1.49 60 ft. with stock suspension!!

Ruckus46Gt

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yea taller tire will allow for more mph, power will dictate it a little, and someone previous said an 00 and that had a t45 which was geared slighly different but not much talking about an mph or 2 not 5 or 10
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...ideoID=3409306

Stopsign32v

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Back then I didn't have the power to cut a better 60'. I was dumping the clutch off the 7,000rpms rev limiter!

2v-in-12's

[QUOTE=Ruckus46Gt;10387735]etc). If anyone is in ny and wants to test out a little 2v I'm sure I can set something up and you will see your *** get handed to you

Calm down there Tyson.........................Weez just talkin

Irunelevens

So a low 13s car gets destroyed by a low 13s car?
I know the Teksid blocks are from the 4Vs, just like the other modular aluminum blocks. It was merely an example of, "The aluminum can handle this, and the iron one is stronger."
Yes, but we've all seen the completely stock-engine '03-'04 Cobras that have 1,000hp. There are VERY few differences between that block and the ones in the 2Vs. Yes the ones with 1,500-2,000 are hacked a bit and don't really qualify as "production" motors to you, but have you seen an LSx F-body block that started as a production block and ended up with that much power? That was my point. The block itself is ridiculously strong.
We were talking about the BLOCKS.

Stopsign32v

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But if yall were talking about 2v's then wouldn't it be a good idea to keep on topic of the 2v BLOCK?

Dynotune04

Its a cast iron MODULAR block. whats it matter what it has for heads on it.

Stopsign32v

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Do you understand the difference between the italian teskid aluminum block and the cast iron run of the mill 2v block?

And not to wander off the beaten path but if you think that you can take any 4.6L block and throw some main studs on it and have a block that will handle 2000hp you are very mistaken.


My Mustang buddies have let me down today.

Bitemark46

Girls have a vagina and boys have a *****.



Can we close this now?

Stopsign32v

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^ I agree

Irunelevens

"I can't find the 2v example I was looking for, but the aluminum Teksid block can handle XXXhp and the iron block is stronger.
I understand that the cast iron in the '03-'04 Cobra is good to over 1,000rwhp without making any changes. And I understand that it's nearly identical to the block in the 2v GTs.

Stopsign32v

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Reguardless I don't think anyone here needs to worry about making 2000hp out of a 4.6 anytime soon so I don't know what it matters anyways...moving on.

06black6spd

wow what a long read, but I have to say whatever this is a ls1 forum

Stopsign32v

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So why are you even here? You don't own a LS1.

ponygt65

WHat's your definition of 'many'? Not trying to be a jerk, just clarifying. I haven't seen a single 600rwhp on a factory stock short block (aside from cam) on this site.

Then again, I haven't checked too much into the entire place, so I'm probably just putting a foot in my mouth.

On a side note, I could have sworn LSx have the same hyperUcrappy made rods/pistons as a mach/MGT. No? How do they handle that power level?