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Old 02-25-2009, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 98gsr-t<lsx
LOL calm down. Talk about getting butthurt. Im obviously a typical ricer idiot thank you for pointing this out. Me calling your car a mulletmobile is the same as you all calling an s2k rice. I like transams, if I could trade my car for an ls1 t/a I would without thinking twice. I like my car and its pretty quick for what it is, which isn't rice I hate rice twice as much as the people on here do, more than liekly, because they give people with the non-rice cars a bad name. Just as i am sure there are a **** ton of rednecks out there with mulletmobiles driving around giving you a bad name.

and as for the video being complete bullshit, I guess your going to believe a guy that posted a story over a video.
Alright...I apologize for jumping on you like that. But its impossible to tell what someone means when you read text over the internet. Thats why the smilies are useful. I read it like you being an *******, even though now I realize you were just kidding around. All too often ricers come on here and try to call people out, which is why I got defensive.

As for your video, its just not a good example. Look at the video I posted as well as the other vids floating around, and you'll see that its the other way around 99% of the time. S2000's just aren't in the same league as LS1 F-bodys when it comes to power.
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And this thread was about an LT1 F-body racing an S2000.
Old 02-25-2009, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
And this thread was about an LT1 F-body racing an S2000.
And an LT1 F-body is still faster than an S2000, so its the same deal.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
And this thread was about an LT1 F-body racing an S2000.



Sorry son, S2000's just aren't in the same league as LT1 F-bodys when it comes to power.
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S2000s and LT1s are typically very close. Trap speeds are generally within a mph or two of each other. The LT1 definitely has the edge from a dig, but from a roll it's anybody's game. And my initial post was that since the S2000 driver has to be on his game to make it a good race against a stock LT1, starting at an rpm that's way too low against a modded car was asking for it. And it would have been quite a bit closer if he had gone from a higher roll. Nothing "ricer" about stating the obvious.
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Originally Posted by 99_Z28
Sorry son, S2000's just aren't in the same league as LT1 F-bodys when it comes to power.
Stop talking about stuff you don't know about . LT1s generally run a hair quicker in the 1/4 (depends on the F-body), but S2000s and LT1s both trap ~100mph.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Stop talking about stuff you don't know about . LT1s generally run a hair quicker in the 1/4 (depends on the F-body), but S2000s and LT1s both trap ~100mph.



Hrm, since I owned a LT1 Ta I know they are almost just as fast as a LS1....your magazine racing as getting old. I talk from experience, you just talk...
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Stop talking about stuff you don't know about . LT1s generally run a hair quicker in the 1/4 (depends on the F-body), but S2000s and LT1s both trap ~100mph.
Enough with your bullshit numbers.

I've been in both cars. LT1 is siginficantly faster in real world driving. S2000 isn't fast, you'd be a very skilled driver to run one to a low 14 @ anything close to 100MPH.
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I was driving an LT1 Corvette when I was fourteen. I know how fast they are. From a roll, an S2000 is a very good match for a stock LT1. Same as a 99-04 Mustang GT 5spd, though I would say the S2000 has a bit more up top than the Mustang. Now considering I've either owned or driven each of the cars we're talking about extensively, over a number of years, why don't you just take my word for it .
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
I was driving an LT1 Corvette when I was fourteen. I know how fast they are. From a roll, an S2000 is a very good match for a stock LT1. Same as a 99-04 Mustang GT 5spd, though I would say the S2000 has a bit more up top than the Mustang. Now considering I've either owned or driven each of the cars we're talking about extensively, over a number of years, why don't you just take my word for it .
Maybe because...I've driven all three as well, and I completely disagree??

I'd say thats a good of a reason as any...
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Originally Posted by Wesmanw02
Alright...I apologize for jumping on you like that. But its impossible to tell what someone means when you read text over the internet. Thats why the smilies are useful. I read it like you being an *******, even though now I realize you were just kidding around. All too often ricers come on here and try to call people out, which is why I got defensive.

As for your video, its just not a good example. Look at the video I posted as well as the other vids floating around, and you'll see that its the other way around 99% of the time. S2000's just aren't in the same league as LS1 F-bodys when it comes to power.
From the s2k's that I have seen in person at a track, they ran between 14.0-14.3 and that was mildly modded. Most people turbo the f series and they can be quite the car. There is a video of one making 700hp keeping up with a liter bike running 22lbs on the stock motor, stock rear and stock tranny. Idk how good they would do against an LT1, I would say it would be close from a roll at least, less than a car and a half either way. My car makes similar power more than likely to an s2k (not sure on the weight though) and I beat a relatively stock LT1 from a roll by 3-5 cars consistently.
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Originally Posted by Wesmanw02
Maybe because...I've driven all three as well, and I completely disagree??

I'd say thats a good of a reason as any...
Just because you've driven a car doesn't make you an expert. Numerous people have run 13.x in stock S2000s, and trapped over 100mph. So I'm sorry if you disagree, but a stock S2000 and a stock LT1 is a very good race.
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Stock S2000s under 14.0 on dragtimes. http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes
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bone stock lt1 from a dig vs s2000 = lt1
bone stock lt1 from a 25 roll vs s2000= lt1 just a little bit closer
both with equal drivers
my 2 cents in
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ok as a former HONDA guy and having spent many many moons at the strip with them. I have never ever seen a s2000 in stock form run better then a 14.5 ever. I have driven a s2000 on many occasions and u have to drive the pis out of it to go fast unlike my lt1 trans am auto who with a quick downshift is gone. the s2000 is way over rated. I hate it good kill but no big feet
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It was a while ago, but my slow lt1 lost to an s2k from like 60ish, I remember him downshifting and him going first, he gained about a car length on me, but that was all he got untill we shutdown, he said he was just intake/exhaust and me about the same, wish I had m6 for rolls!, or at least run him from a dig.
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Originally Posted by AznMuscle
Indeed. It would be like trying to race a 3.42 geared, massive cam'd ls1, from 1500 rpms. Dead spot till 4-5k, then it will really get moving.

My deadspot is from idle to 1500 rpm's.
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I feel the S2K's pain, 3.23 gears and a cam with M6 makes for shitty low speed performance. Above 3500 this its great but I can't even squeal the tires if I stab the gas below that. Good kill to the OP, and irunelevens I think you're fighting a lost cause here trying to defend your car.
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Originally Posted by firehawk618
My deadspot is from idle to 1500 rpm's.
Mine will be with the cam I'm going with. But gears make up for it...plus spinning it high, shifting high.
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Originally Posted by 97knightrider
ok as a former HONDA guy and having spent many many moons at the strip with them. I have never ever seen a s2000 in stock form run better then a 14.5 ever. I have driven a s2000 on many occasions and u have to drive the pis out of it to go fast unlike my lt1 trans am auto who with a quick downshift is gone. the s2000 is way over rated. I hate it good kill but no big feet
No. Yes, you have to "drive the pis out of it," but never seen better than a 14.5? Get real. If I can run a 14.97 @ 93.82mph in a stock '94 Integra GS-R, there is absolutely no reason why an S2000 can't run a second and 6-7mph faster. Which many people (magazines included) have shown time and time again.
Originally Posted by Arc00TA
I feel the S2K's pain, 3.23 gears and a cam with M6 makes for shitty low speed performance. Above 3500 this its great but I can't even squeal the tires if I stab the gas below that. Good kill to the OP, and irunelevens I think you're fighting a lost cause here trying to defend your car.
It's not so much "defending" as it is hoping people can accept fact. But oh well, the ignorant love to stay ignorant right?

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