Cheated out of a race with an NSX today...
03-05-2009, 05:47 AM
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From my understanding from posters on the site, a stock LS1 will easily do a 13.6-13.8. We've had factory freak LT1s do 13.7 (can't remember the guys name on here). Doesn't seem all that exciting[the NSX] for a $60K (in 1991, which compared to a Vette is at, or over, double the price) to $88K (in 1997, again well over a Vettes price tag) "Supercar". And I'm not bashing it for it being an import, I think the S2000 is a spiffy car (even if I beat one with my 91 5.7 TPI 
) and some of the recent Acuras have some spunk.
According to a few others, I apparently don't
Facts are facts though, at least in regards to the HP being laid down. Most made was 290hp, newest Acura TL with AWD puts out 305hp.
As for the handling, I'm just going off what a benchmark using something like 5 to 7 cars resulted in. The driver said he thought the NSX was very sluggish (handling, not speed), and it dropped way behind the C5 Vette. To no surprise, the Mini Cooper S handled best and behind it was whatever Lambo that was being tested. The handling test was in the Slalom. It's 0-60, 0-100 and 1/4 time wasn't in the top 3 either, any sort of numbers on them though has been overwritten in my memory. This is something that's classified as a "Supercar" remember >_> I just consider it an expensive sports car, otherwise F-Bodys should have the Supercar nomenclature, and yet even the Vette doesn't (but is gaining ground).
EDIT: haha Apparently it's not a Supercar anymore, well at least according to whom ever submitted some info on it to Wiki. It's just a regular old Sports Car like us
) and some of the recent Acuras have some spunk.According to a few others, I apparently don't
Facts are facts though, at least in regards to the HP being laid down. Most made was 290hp, newest Acura TL with AWD puts out 305hp.As for the handling, I'm just going off what a benchmark using something like 5 to 7 cars resulted in. The driver said he thought the NSX was very sluggish (handling, not speed), and it dropped way behind the C5 Vette. To no surprise, the Mini Cooper S handled best and behind it was whatever Lambo that was being tested. The handling test was in the Slalom. It's 0-60, 0-100 and 1/4 time wasn't in the top 3 either, any sort of numbers on them though has been overwritten in my memory. This is something that's classified as a "Supercar" remember >_> I just consider it an expensive sports car, otherwise F-Bodys should have the Supercar nomenclature, and yet even the Vette doesn't (but is gaining ground).
EDIT: haha Apparently it's not a Supercar anymore, well at least according to whom ever submitted some info on it to Wiki. It's just a regular old Sports Car like us
I didn't even post to argue with you (I never even post on this board... have been on it for almost a year doing research... only 'joined' to post a question on a part for sale)... just go look at the NSX forum sometime and do some research of your own... maybe find somebody near by to take you for a ride (most of the people I met on there were more than happy to take somebody that didn't know better out for a ride). You obviously DON'T (and you can take it as an insult if you want, but its the truth till you figure it out for yourself) know what you are talking about and are basing everything you know about it from a couple paragraphs on the internet... Hate to break it to ya, but when you do that, a lot of F-bodies look pretty crappy too.
03-05-2009, 07:46 AM
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Pretty sure you would've taken him anyways man 
When Acura debuted their lastest, I think it's the TL, they said that it's "Their most powerful car ever". Which kind of surprised me till I researched the NSX. Sure enough, the NSX doesn't have squat for HP and TQ! They're apparently a joke, as far as "Supercars" go. From tests I've read, they don't corner as well as others and their lack of power is only slightly made up by their higher revving engine.
When Acura debuted their lastest, I think it's the TL, they said that it's "Their most powerful car ever". Which kind of surprised me till I researched the NSX. Sure enough, the NSX doesn't have squat for HP and TQ! They're apparently a joke, as far as "Supercars" go. From tests I've read, they don't corner as well as others and their lack of power is only slightly made up by their higher revving engine.
03-05-2009, 02:05 PM
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The resell value is low on those. They were what around 80k new, now you can find them for under $30k. A friend of mine bought his a few years ago for $25k. I would be pissed if I bought a $80k car that lost almost 2/3 of its value in 10 years... and I'd be pissed if it only came with about 280hp.
03-05-2009, 02:10 PM
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The resell value is low on those. They were what around 80k new, now you can find them for under $30k. A friend of mine bought his a few years ago for $25k. I would be pissed if I bought a $80k car that lost almost 2/3 of its value in 10 years... and I'd be pissed if it only came with about 280hp.
03-05-2009, 02:28 PM
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i dont get it... when someone wants to race me and i jump hard and i dont think they are racing, i still leave it in 1st just in case they decide to go... i NEVER take it outa gear or upshift.. i leave it right where if the retard wants to go, im goign too, but faster!!
03-05-2009, 02:33 PM
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03-05-2009, 02:39 PM
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also if i recall, the computers are programed to where eve if the car is in 1st gear, and you rev it out, its still going to shift so second.... my grand prix did that.... same tranny no?
03-05-2009, 02:43 PM
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Umm why wouldn't you race a auto from the dig?? That's their bread and butter especially if they are set up right and have a good driver behind the wheel. And thats not true in all cases about the computer shifting out. Some of the LT1 based cars came with a functional 1st gear (as mine did) and if I put it in 1, it stays in 1 until I manually shift it out.
03-05-2009, 02:44 PM
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if i had an auto there is no way in hell i would race from a dig in D.. it would always be in 1st, just in case this kind of **** happens... then once you realize he is racing, punch the gas and put it back into D.. and let it shift on its own... but by keeping it in 1st at first, youwill be in the power band and it wont need to downshift
also if i recall, the computers are programed to where eve if the car is in 1st gear, and you rev it out, its still going to shift so second.... my grand prix did that.... same tranny no?
also if i recall, the computers are programed to where eve if the car is in 1st gear, and you rev it out, its still going to shift so second.... my grand prix did that.... same tranny no?
03-05-2009, 02:44 PM
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if i had an auto there is no way in hell i would race from a dig in D.. it would always be in 1st, just in case this kind of **** happens... then once you realize he is racing, punch the gas and put it back into D.. and let it shift on its own... but by keeping it in 1st at first, youwill be in the power band and it wont need to downshift
also if i recall, the computers are programed to where eve if the car is in 1st gear, and you rev it out, its still going to shift so second.... my grand prix did that.... same tranny no?
also if i recall, the computers are programed to where eve if the car is in 1st gear, and you rev it out, its still going to shift so second.... my grand prix did that.... same tranny no?
03-05-2009, 02:51 PM
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and we dont need to start this whole M6 A4 thing, cause personally for a DD M6 and roll racing its better, unless you are john force, a stalled auto will yank you at the track. hell i yank bolt-on LS1's M6's at the track.
03-05-2009, 02:54 PM
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why would i not reccomend it? because its done by the computer. . . the ocmputer does it perfect 100% of the time everytime. you can do it yourself but there is a chance you upshift too soon, or not soon enough and bounce off the limiter. i leave the car in 3rd, which would just be the regular D on a camaro and put the pedal to the floor.
and we dont need to start this whole M6 A4 thing, cause personally for a DD M6 and roll racing its better, unless you are john force, a stalled auto will yank you at the track. hell i yank bolt-on LS1's M6's at the track.
and we dont need to start this whole M6 A4 thing, cause personally for a DD M6 and roll racing its better, unless you are john force, a stalled auto will yank you at the track. hell i yank bolt-on LS1's M6's at the track.
Both of my cars are M6's. T56 4 life!
03-05-2009, 02:56 PM
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different strokes for different folks.
