Stock 6.0 Goat M6 vs. Bolton 99 Trans am A4
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I run up at speedworld, north of Surprise.. and at Firebird. My brother generally loses 3 tenths when he runs at SIR. I use to run at Bandimere in CO. That place is brutal on a car's performance.
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Ouch...CO, hell yea. I remember reading a story on here once, where a guy raced a c6z in Denver I believe, and they ran in the 10s in the 1/8th mile. This **** sucks lol. I hear firebirds track prep kind of sucks...still probablly better then SIR though. I have yet to go out to SW...couldn't find it the one time I was on the way. Going down grand ave, looking for the road...didn't know the bitch was on the other side of the highway, and the only way to access it.
With the times and stuff, I'm kind of surprised its not more than 3 tenths. A buddy of mine picked up 3 mph in SW over SIR in his boosted crx. I'm glad/sad we don't have a track here in SV.
With the times and stuff, I'm kind of surprised its not more than 3 tenths. A buddy of mine picked up 3 mph in SW over SIR in his boosted crx. I'm glad/sad we don't have a track here in SV.
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Ouch...CO, hell yea. I remember reading a story on here once, where a guy raced a c6z in Denver I believe, and they ran in the 10s in the 1/8th mile. This **** sucks lol. I hear firebirds track prep kind of sucks...still probablly better then SIR though. I have yet to go out to SW...couldn't find it the one time I was on the way. Going down grand ave, looking for the road...didn't know the bitch was on the other side of the highway, and the only way to access it.
With the times and stuff, I'm kind of surprised its not more than 3 tenths. A buddy of mine picked up 3 mph in SW over SIR in his boosted crx. I'm glad/sad we don't have a track here in SV.
With the times and stuff, I'm kind of surprised its not more than 3 tenths. A buddy of mine picked up 3 mph in SW over SIR in his boosted crx. I'm glad/sad we don't have a track here in SV.
that's classic. yeah speedworld is in the sticks! I would probably lose more than 3 tenths. My bro runs a carbed 67 camaro that goes 10.70's and he only loses 3 tenths. I would probably lose 1/2 second at least. I may be coming down there (SIR) for the big bracket race over memorial weekend.
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that's classic. yeah speedworld is in the sticks! I would probably lose more than 3 tenths. My bro runs a carbed 67 camaro that goes 10.70's and he only loses 3 tenths. I would probably lose 1/2 second at least. I may be coming down there (SIR) for the big bracket race over memorial weekend.
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Yeah, I will. I've destroyed the pinion in the 10 bolt 3 times in the last year as well as 2 trannys that were taken out in the process. I really need to get a trailer!
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You would be ok for awhile (maybe). I race almost every weekend so my car takes a beating.
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on a side note
BracketracerZ28 i just now noticed you are in AZ! You goto the track every weekend? im thinking about hitting speedworld saturday.
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I may come out sat. nite to practice. We have a team race on the 21st I have to practice for. Would like to get a nitrous pass in with my new tune.
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I totally understand the D.A. thing. Maybe you dont? Saying you never see them running good at your track. Here they run low 13s stock all day long, if they can drive. That seems to be a HUGE factor in these cars. IRS + 245s = impossible to launch.
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I totally understand the D.A. thing. Maybe you dont? Saying you never see them running good at your track. Here they run low 13s stock all day long, if they can drive. That seems to be a HUGE factor in these cars. IRS + 245s = impossible to launch.
Once again LS1 f body and LS2 GTO = drivers race. And to prove it if we can find a stock LS1 f body around me we can meet up and run a few times to see what happens and video it and put it here.
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so let me get this straight. You are saying a 305 horspower car is a drivers race with a 400 horsepower car??? I doubt you understand the da thing, especially if you don't bracketrace. So stock to stock, wouldn't you think the goat would smoke the camaro????? You are right about the launch thing and most people here run the 6 speed goats...... so like I said, they run high 13's, low 14's here, same ballpark as the GT mustangs. If you would like, I will go out to speedworld any saturday night and video this strange event. Low 13's at sea level is High 13's here.
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Racing from a dig takes a lot of skills for some, and having a nice set of tires help a lot most of those drivers, the thing is not everybody is using such tires. i know i would never get a 12.36 on street tires with just a full exahust, but damn i trapped a 108 mph with just a CB and CAI at California Dragway, (1200 ft track) back in Jan 2006, so the engine have the potential given the trap, but the ET is not there because the 60's is not there. math's are simple, but getting the car dialed in is not that easy for some with just a couple of mods
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This cars are not easy to launch with stock tires, so more skills are required to succcesfully have a good launch, especially racing with the stock 18" wheels/tires. like with every car, some might run better, some might run worst, plus not everybody can drive, and when i mean drive, i mean to get a nice 60' at the track, or a nice launch on the street with stock tires.
Racing from a dig takes a lot of skills for some, and having a nice set of tires help a lot most of those drivers, the thing is not everybody is using such tires. i know i would never get a 12.36 on street tires with just a full exahust, but damn i trapped a 108 mph with just a CB and CAI at California Dragway, (1200 ft track) back in Jan 2006, so the engine have the potential given the trap, but the ET is not there because the 60's is not there. math's are simple, but getting the car dialed in is not that easy for some with just a couple of mods![Happy](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_stretch.gif)
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Racing from a dig takes a lot of skills for some, and having a nice set of tires help a lot most of those drivers, the thing is not everybody is using such tires. i know i would never get a 12.36 on street tires with just a full exahust, but damn i trapped a 108 mph with just a CB and CAI at California Dragway, (1200 ft track) back in Jan 2006, so the engine have the potential given the trap, but the ET is not there because the 60's is not there. math's are simple, but getting the car dialed in is not that easy for some with just a couple of mods
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that's awesome! but again, what was the DA, not the altitude of the track? You are right, you should easily be in the 12's, but my point is they are not. And for the horsepower they have, they should be stronger. Trap speed and et don't always jive. There is much more than simple math involved. My trap speed is also 108 but you have to look at gearing, converter, tire size etc. I beat lots of cars that come across at 108 plus. When you have traction problems, your done, especially on the street.