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Old Apr 15, 2009 | 09:02 AM
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I want this setup in my Fox one day.
My buddy just did that in his Mach. (Pharmdmach) on the M1R. Car if freakin awsome. I'll send you some pics and dyno #s if you want when he gets it on there.
Old Apr 15, 2009 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Newskool Mach
Since your gonna go through that trouble and expense, why not just swap in an aluminator and a whipple and make 700 RWHP instead of 5++?
how much is the expense to do that setup??
Old Apr 15, 2009 | 09:47 AM
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how much is the expense to do that setup??
I would say you could do it for $15000 total. Motor is around 6000 for the longblock. It is strong and you wouldn't have to upgrade anything. Just bolt on the whipple and your set. You might need to upgrade to a Mach or Cobra computer I'm not sure. You will be in for at least $10000 on your 2v and be limited by those heads. And the aluminator has a 3 year warranty.
Old Apr 15, 2009 | 04:16 PM
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thats a lot of money for that setup. i think i will stick with getting a forged kit for my motor for now and going with a different s/c than i want for right now. either way i go all these TAs and Camaros in my area are all going to start getting beat by me before long.
Old Apr 15, 2009 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by whipplecharged03
thats a lot of money for that setup. i think i will stick with getting a forged kit for my motor for now and going with a different s/c than i want for right now. either way i go all these TAs and Camaros in my area are all going to start getting beat by me before long.
You're best bet.....forged short block and swap over the parts. Get a used P1 or D1 ATi kit. Find a GOOD TUNER!...and you'll be set.

Forged internals for the parts are cheaper....but you'll pay more in labor for rebuild, etc.

You're talking ~$6-8k all said and done.
Old Apr 15, 2009 | 05:46 PM
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you don't know what your talking about. there are many full bolt on gt's in the 12's...my buddy who has an ss had an 00 gt that wasn't full bolt on and he ran 8.4 in the eighth...which is at right about a 13.0...

and i know of 2 other guys runnin mid/high twelves

and in fact, there is a member on here with an ls1 and a 2valve...and he has a 2v with NOWHERE near full bolt on's and ran 12.9...in fact his member name is 2v in the twelves
Let me ask you this: Does he have gears, serious weight reduction, manual, nitrous? Can you show me a video of one with just an exhaust system and a cold air intake running 12's.
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Originally Posted by NX 99 GT
Let me ask you this: Does he have gears, serious weight reduction, manual, nitrous? Can you show me a video of one with just an exhaust system and a cold air intake running 12's.
What does that ahve to do with anything? YOu stated FULL BOLT ONs. even full exhaust and CAI is HARDLY full bolt ons.

stop back tracking and stick to what you said.
Old Apr 15, 2009 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by NX 99 GT
Let me ask you this: Does he have gears, serious weight reduction, manual, nitrous? Can you show me a video of one with just an exhaust system and a cold air intake running 12's.
i should be in the 12s soon as i get my tires
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listen to this comment from a guy on one of my local forums. he stated that he has a bone stock z28 camaro. told me that he would give me a 2 car length advantage as well as the jump and before the 1/4 was over he would put 4 cars on me .
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Originally Posted by NX 99 GT
Let me ask you this: Does he have gears, serious weight reduction, manual, nitrous? Can you show me a video of one with just an exhaust system and a cold air intake running 12's.
what does manual and nitrous have to do with anything...of course no nitrous...and yes a manual.

2v in the twelves has tune,cai,flowmaster with a 4.10 and some drag radials and he ran 12.9 at almost 107

still leaves longtubes, pullies, throttle body, plenum, driveshaft, etc.
Old Apr 16, 2009 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by mrbigjeep
what does manual and nitrous have to do with anything...of course no nitrous...and yes a manual.

2v in the twelves has tune,cai,flowmaster with a 4.10 and some drag radials and he ran 12.9 at almost 107

still leaves longtubes, pullies, throttle body, plenum, driveshaft, etc.
Dang in that case i definately need to get my car checked out and see if my tune is bad. because i have every mod that you listed and im not running in the 12s yet even though i havent made any runs with the drag radials yet.
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Originally Posted by whipplecharged03
Dang in that case i definately need to get my car checked out and see if my tune is bad. because i have every mod that you listed and im not running in the 12s yet even though i havent made any runs with the drag radials yet.
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Originally Posted by whipplecharged03
Dang in that case i definately need to get my car checked out and see if my tune is bad. because i have every mod that you listed and im not running in the 12s yet even though i havent made any runs with the drag radials yet.
you said yourself you would be in the twelves w/ the drag radials

he also had lakewood struts and 1 or 2 other cheap suspension mods...but i would say a twelve is completely possible as the 60' ft for his run was 1.8...and i have a friend cuttin 1.8's without those mods...plus i cut a 1.9 on street tires. i know for sure drag radials would take me down a tenth
Old Apr 16, 2009 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ponygt65
You're best bet.....forged short block and swap over the parts. Get a used P1 or D1 ATi kit. Find a GOOD TUNER!...and you'll be set.

Forged internals for the parts are cheaper....but you'll pay more in labor for rebuild, etc.

You're talking ~$6-8k all said and done.
There's a very reputable Mustang shop in DFW that will do a forged shortblock INSTALLED for $3500 .
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i could be remembering wrong but i believe my best 60' was like a 1.60 or something like that. i will check my slips when i get home. when i ran the 13.2 i had a perfect reaction time of 0.00 but can remember exactly what the 60' was. it was a 1. something.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
There's a very reputable Mustang shop in DFW that will do a forged shortblock INSTALLED for $3500 .
where is DFW? im from good ole southern arkansas.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
There's a very reputable Mustang shop in DFW that will do a forged shortblock INSTALLED for $3500 .
Gotta be wearie of TOOO good of a deal though. Cheap forged internals or slapped together = more $$$$ down the road. Somethings you just can't short pay on. Believe me.
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i could be remembering wrong but i believe my best 60' was like a 1.60 or something like that. i will check my slips when i get home. when i ran the 13.2 i had a perfect reaction time of 0.00 but can remember exactly what the 60' was. it was a 1. something.
Good reaction time is nice, but just remember, that does nothing for your ET or 60'.

Get that thing tuned and DR's I bet you'll see 12.8s.
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Well the $3500 forged shortblock is from HPP, and I believe it's very similar to the setup in the '03 Cobras.
Old Apr 16, 2009 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ponygt65
Gotta be wearie of TOOO good of a deal though. Cheap forged internals or slapped together = more $$$$ down the road. Somethings you just can't short pay on. Believe me.

Good reaction time is nice, but just remember, that does nothing for your ET or 60'.

Get that thing tuned and DR's I bet you'll see 12.8s.
yeah i just got off the phone with one of my friends who actually had the time slips with him.he said i had a 2.2 60' so say the least i was way off on my 60' lol
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Well the $3500 forged shortblock is from HPP, and I believe it's very similar to the setup in the '03 Cobras.
I won't talk bad about HPP, but I won't refer anyone there too. That's all I'll say.

Originally Posted by whipplecharged03
yeah i just got off the phone with one of my friends who actually had the time slips with him.he said i had a 2.2 60' so say the least i was way off on my 60' lol
Get that 60' down and you'll see 12s. Tune will Def. help man.



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